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Autopilot has basically been shelved for the past 2 years as they've been working on FSD, which will replace the current AP stack. Go have a look on Youtube, th

Autopilot has basically been shelved for the past 2 years as they've been working on FSD, which will replace the current AP stack. Go have a look on Youtube, there are thousands of videos where you can see the visualizations, it's night and day. To save you the click, here's one released today with the latest version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCTssX2VdKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCTssX2VdKA

s1mon 4y ago
That's crazy then. Is the hardware different, or just the software? I was under the impression that FSD was just basically paying for the software feature. It definitely looks much more dialed in, but still there's a lot of weird glitches with object permanence and physics failures that make me wonder how well this will always work. I was a little concerned with how fast the car was going on Lombard when the pedestrian darted across. It worked out ok, but if the person had tripped, or dropped something and stopped to pick it up, it would have been harder to stop. I skimmed through the whole video, but I didn't see any traffic light recognition of anything more than red, amber, green. Are there videos with more complex traffic lights? It's interesting that they managed to drive in that area without going through any of the weird intersections with cable car or Muni traffic lights. Is the autopilot preview meant to help sell FSD?
- martindbp 4y ago
  There are 100k people beta testing this, so you'll find any kind of situation imaginable on Youtube, whether downtown NYC, torrential downpour, weird intersections etc. Many Youtubers find edge-cases or difficult routs and then drive that same route for every version to see how it improves (or not). Chuck Cook's famous unprotected left turn is one of those that got (mostly) fixed this release. > Is the hardware different, or just the software? It's the same hardware, just software and deep learning improvements. There are higher resolution cameras and better inference hardware coming out, but they're claiming it's not necessary for full autonomy. My guess is eventually they'll hand it out for free just to avoid supporting old hardware. The current cameras are quite low-res. > Is the autopilot preview meant to help sell FSD? No idea, but I hope they change it to FSD visualizations soon. For a while they've been trying to join the stacks for freeway (AP), city streets (FSD) and parking into one, the famed version 11. Since AP has been using this old stuff that's probably why they use these visualizations. And to be clear, this is definitely not done, requires constant supervision. But it's improving pretty fast.

s1mon 4y ago

That's crazy then. Is the hardware different, or just the software? I was under the impression that FSD was just basically paying for the software feature. It definitely looks much more dialed in, but still there's a lot of weird glitches with object permanence and physics failures that make me wonder how well this will always work. I was a little concerned with how fast the car was going on Lombard when the pedestrian darted across. It worked out ok, but if the person had tripped, or dropped something and stopped to pick it up, it would have been harder to stop. I skimmed through the whole video, but I didn't see any traffic light recognition of anything more than red, amber, green. Are there videos with more complex traffic lights? It's interesting that they managed to drive in that area without going through any of the weird intersections with cable car or Muni traffic lights. Is the autopilot preview meant to help sell FSD?

martindbp 4y ago
There are 100k people beta testing this, so you'll find any kind of situation imaginable on Youtube, whether downtown NYC, torrential downpour, weird intersections etc. Many Youtubers find edge-cases or difficult routs and then drive that same route for every version to see how it improves (or not). Chuck Cook's famous unprotected left turn is one of those that got (mostly) fixed this release. > Is the hardware different, or just the software? It's the same hardware, just software and deep learning improvements. There are higher resolution cameras and better inference hardware coming out, but they're claiming it's not necessary for full autonomy. My guess is eventually they'll hand it out for free just to avoid supporting old hardware. The current cameras are quite low-res. > Is the autopilot preview meant to help sell FSD? No idea, but I hope they change it to FSD visualizations soon. For a while they've been trying to join the stacks for freeway (AP), city streets (FSD) and parking into one, the famed version 11. Since AP has been using this old stuff that's probably why they use these visualizations. And to be clear, this is definitely not done, requires constant supervision. But it's improving pretty fast.