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I'm genuinely interested in the link to the data about the vaxx / unvaxxed split. I know the most ardent antivaxxers are going to explain every death in the ne

I'm genuinely interested in the link to the data about the vaxx / unvaxxed split. I know the most ardent antivaxxers are going to explain every death in the next 30 years by the vaxx ; but the numbers would be so staggering that I suspect plain old counting would help.

cies 4y ago
> I know the most ardent antivaxxers are going to explain every death in the next 30 years by the vaxx In same vein the "every death" (or hospitalization) during the covid pandemic was due to covid and/or lack of vaccination. I add quotation marks because in both cases I do not believe it's true.
origin_path 4y ago
Traveling today so don't have easy access to my bookmarks with that data (is heavily buried in UK govt websites) but here's an analysis of the excess death data that also shows ambulance call outs jump permanently and significantly in April 2021 https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/massive-increases-in-excess-deaths https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/massive-increases-in-exc... A lot of it is due cardiac reasons. You can also look at when excess death went up in younger age ranges that weren't affected by COVID and see that it starts at the same time the vaccine programme reached them. Hard to explain as lockdowns given they'd been happening for a year by that time. Edit: Here we go. here's an analysis of deaths by vaccine status for the UK: https://bartram.substack.com/p/deaths-by-vaccination-status-for https://bartram.substack.com/p/deaths-by-vaccination-status-... N.b. The way you calculate the population size heavily affects the meaning of this data and the government itself doesn't know what the population is, so there's plenty to debate here, but you can see why the author concludes there should be an investigation. He uses a conservative pop estimate based on official NHS registrations (because the ons estimate is definitely wrong) and plots the graph of the difference by status at the end. So you can set that for everyone under 75 the vaccines appear to be making things worse not better.

cies 4y ago

> I know the most ardent antivaxxers are going to explain every death in the next 30 years by the vaxx In same vein the "every death" (or hospitalization) during the covid pandemic was due to covid and/or lack of vaccination. I add quotation marks because in both cases I do not believe it's true.

origin_path 4y ago

Traveling today so don't have easy access to my bookmarks with that data (is heavily buried in UK govt websites) but here's an analysis of the excess death data that also shows ambulance call outs jump permanently and significantly in April 2021 https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/massive-increases-in-excess-deaths https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/massive-increases-in-exc... A lot of it is due cardiac reasons. You can also look at when excess death went up in younger age ranges that weren't affected by COVID and see that it starts at the same time the vaccine programme reached them. Hard to explain as lockdowns given they'd been happening for a year by that time. Edit: Here we go. here's an analysis of deaths by vaccine status for the UK: https://bartram.substack.com/p/deaths-by-vaccination-status-for https://bartram.substack.com/p/deaths-by-vaccination-status-... N.b. The way you calculate the population size heavily affects the meaning of this data and the government itself doesn't know what the population is, so there's plenty to debate here, but you can see why the author concludes there should be an investigation. He uses a conservative pop estimate based on official NHS registrations (because the ons estimate is definitely wrong) and plots the graph of the difference by status at the end. So you can set that for everyone under 75 the vaccines appear to be making things worse not better.