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You would think that but a lot of people can't see beyond its the Tories in power. We'd be better off with proportional representation but the beeb did an excel

by rob_c 4y ago

You would think that but a lot of people can't see beyond its the Tories in power. We'd be better off with proportional representation but the beeb did an excellent job at mis-selling that to the masses

kergonath 4y ago
It is frustrating to see the country getting polarised this way. A 2-party system is not helpful to a functioning democracy. I am not a fan of fully proportional representation as it leads to government instability and ineffectiveness, but a party getting an absolute majority in Parliament whilst getting 40% of the vote is a travesty. Also, after having lived through Brexit and the successive government, the BBC is not fit for purpose. It is fine as a public media group, but it’s sanctity in the mind of a lot of British people is not really well founded.
- rob_c 4y ago
  Yeah have to agree with pretty much all of that. My worry is that we are defecto the 52nd state these days and we've adopted the 2 party system from across the pond since the coalition was little more than a sitting government against fox hunting, their arguably biggest achievement was placing Cameron in a position where he bailed after throwing national policy under the bus to appease his own party. I won't pretend that Brexit hasn't been mishandled as a lot of the opposition predicted (also in news water wet), but the EU/EC has unfortunately for them shown a lot of its attitude toward Britain is as promoters had been saying. Sorry not maeaning to derail too much.
  - n4r9 4y ago
    I'd argue that the UK has always had a 2-party system, and if anything the US adopted it from us. The Lab/Con split goes back to ~1910, prior to which we had the Tory/Liberal split going back to ~1850, prior to which we had a Tory/Whig split going back to ~1780, prior to which the political system was very different.

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You would think that but a lot of people can't see beyond its the Tories in power. We'd be better off with proportional representation but the beeb did an excel

by rob_c 4y ago

kergonath 4y ago
It is frustrating to see the country getting polarised this way. A 2-party system is not helpful to a functioning democracy. I am not a fan of fully proportional representation as it leads to government instability and ineffectiveness, but a party getting an absolute majority in Parliament whilst getting 40% of the vote is a travesty. Also, after having lived through Brexit and the successive government, the BBC is not fit for purpose. It is fine as a public media group, but it’s sanctity in the mind of a lot of British people is not really well founded.
- rob_c 4y ago
  Yeah have to agree with pretty much all of that. My worry is that we are defecto the 52nd state these days and we've adopted the 2 party system from across the pond since the coalition was little more than a sitting government against fox hunting, their arguably biggest achievement was placing Cameron in a position where he bailed after throwing national policy under the bus to appease his own party. I won't pretend that Brexit hasn't been mishandled as a lot of the opposition predicted (also in news water wet), but the EU/EC has unfortunately for them shown a lot of its attitude toward Britain is as promoters had been saying. Sorry not maeaning to derail too much.
  - n4r9 4y ago
    I'd argue that the UK has always had a 2-party system, and if anything the US adopted it from us. The Lab/Con split goes back to ~1910, prior to which we had the Tory/Liberal split going back to ~1850, prior to which we had a Tory/Whig split going back to ~1780, prior to which the political system was very different.