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imho it's just an extreme version of "right-wing government fucks it up for the common folk while enriching the upper class, left-wing government has to come in

by slater 4y ago

imho it's just an extreme version of "right-wing government fucks it up for the common folk while enriching the upper class, left-wing government has to come in and fix it all again, badly, because they'll be opposed at every step of the way by the right wing in opposition" Brexit was a horrific mistake, one that will take decades to fix (up to and including the UK re-joining). In the meantime, the folks at the top stop just short of telling the poors to eat cake.

winternett 4y ago
The same happens in the US every few years as well. There have been recessions during or after almost every major Republican president's term (Not even trying to be political about this, but history clearly shows the trend)... It's almost as if it is engineered for personal profit. The biggest threat to rebounds this time is the increase in threat of environmental decline and infectious disease that is not allowing economic recovery to be stable. The only thing supporting whether stability can be re-achieved is the willingness of the middle and lower class to keep paying increasing taxes every year to fund recovery. Governments have been taking taxpayers for granted for ages now, and it's a tipping point that shouldn't be underestimated. Taxes are very high, and bailouts are literally leaking funds to (already very wealthy) people and companies that ritually skirt taxes. Paying half of an annual salary to government when you see far more wealthy people ritually skirting their tax obligations, and where infrastructure is failing, where healthcare is weak, when the environment is falling apart, when consumer goods and services are radically overpriced, where employees of vital services are quitting, where safety is under threat daily, and where career opportunity is limited -- Well, it's not something that is sustainable at all to say the least.
rob_c 4y ago
Please stop viewing everything through the political hammer of one ideology over another. That would fail to explain what constructed the 52% or why in part the vote was called. Of course it was badly managed by a British govt but this is like saying rain will be wet. It's a given. I'm not saying Brexit was a good financial, economical, social or societal motivator, but unfortunately the argument for a lot of people clearly became philosophical. (Notice how I'm not saying all) If this was all so good why did this get to a situation where half the country was displeased despite the blairite years? And the argument of "big red bus lied to us" only shows contempt for the ill educated either people are smart and educated enough to engage on this or they're not, there's no "take backs" in first past the post politics.

by slater 4y ago

winternett 4y ago

The same happens in the US every few years as well. There have been recessions during or after almost every major Republican president's term (Not even trying to be political about this, but history clearly shows the trend)... It's almost as if it is engineered for personal profit. The biggest threat to rebounds this time is the increase in threat of environmental decline and infectious disease that is not allowing economic recovery to be stable. The only thing supporting whether stability can be re-achieved is the willingness of the middle and lower class to keep paying increasing taxes every year to fund recovery. Governments have been taking taxpayers for granted for ages now, and it's a tipping point that shouldn't be underestimated. Taxes are very high, and bailouts are literally leaking funds to (already very wealthy) people and companies that ritually skirt taxes. Paying half of an annual salary to government when you see far more wealthy people ritually skirting their tax obligations, and where infrastructure is failing, where healthcare is weak, when the environment is falling apart, when consumer goods and services are radically overpriced, where employees of vital services are quitting, where safety is under threat daily, and where career opportunity is limited -- Well, it's not something that is sustainable at all to say the least.

rob_c 4y ago

Please stop viewing everything through the political hammer of one ideology over another. That would fail to explain what constructed the 52% or why in part the vote was called. Of course it was badly managed by a British govt but this is like saying rain will be wet. It's a given. I'm not saying Brexit was a good financial, economical, social or societal motivator, but unfortunately the argument for a lot of people clearly became philosophical. (Notice how I'm not saying all) If this was all so good why did this get to a situation where half the country was displeased despite the blairite years? And the argument of "big red bus lied to us" only shows contempt for the ill educated either people are smart and educated enough to engage on this or they're not, there's no "take backs" in first past the post politics.