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Which to be fair, the guy lives in San Francisco. It isn't that hard to file a small claims case. I understand that there may be some legal nuisances involved,

Which to be fair, the guy lives in San Francisco. It isn't that hard to file a small claims case. I understand that there may be some legal nuisances involved, but just getting the attention of the legal review team that will have to show up to defend the case is usually enough to get them to evaluate a matter beyond the algorithms. I don't think it is fair, but is much quicker and cheaper $7,000.

sgent 4y ago
Maybe CA is different, but in most states small claims can't order equitable remedies (reinstating his account) and can only award money damages.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  What would be sought is return of property which small claims courts do have the power to enforce. A case trying to change the laws to force a company to provide services to you against their choice, with some exceptions for discrimination due to protected classes, would easily cost millions and is pretty much dead in the water from the get go. If the property value is assessed to be more than $10,000 then by all means seek relief in another court but note Google wouldn't be able to have a lawyer represent them in small claims.. If Google has to choose between sending an executive to small claims to defend the company without representation or try to resolve a dispute via settlement, they are likely to try to resolve it via settlement which is the type of relief this individual appears to be seeking.
  - hn_go_brrrrr 4y ago
    Google has a team of non-lawyers with legal training whose job is to attend small claims court. They're not wasting an exec's time.
    - encryptluks2 4y ago
      I don't see any information about this team of non-lawyer legal experts when doing a quick search, but regardless non-lawyers with legal training are usually still pretty expensive. Again, they are much more willing to listen and actually try to resolve an issue than first-response algorithm defenders. Most small claims even require mediation before trial, so if you don't get it settled before then you can just request dismissal without prejudice.

sgent 4y ago

Maybe CA is different, but in most states small claims can't order equitable remedies (reinstating his account) and can only award money damages.

encryptluks2 4y ago
What would be sought is return of property which small claims courts do have the power to enforce. A case trying to change the laws to force a company to provide services to you against their choice, with some exceptions for discrimination due to protected classes, would easily cost millions and is pretty much dead in the water from the get go. If the property value is assessed to be more than $10,000 then by all means seek relief in another court but note Google wouldn't be able to have a lawyer represent them in small claims.. If Google has to choose between sending an executive to small claims to defend the company without representation or try to resolve a dispute via settlement, they are likely to try to resolve it via settlement which is the type of relief this individual appears to be seeking.
- hn_go_brrrrr 4y ago
  Google has a team of non-lawyers with legal training whose job is to attend small claims court. They're not wasting an exec's time.
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    I don't see any information about this team of non-lawyer legal experts when doing a quick search, but regardless non-lawyers with legal training are usually still pretty expensive. Again, they are much more willing to listen and actually try to resolve an issue than first-response algorithm defenders. Most small claims even require mediation before trial, so if you don't get it settled before then you can just request dismissal without prejudice.