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Supporting the party which consistently underfunds a British institution, and sells off parts of it to their mates, in order to protect Britishness. Sums up Tor

Supporting the party which consistently underfunds a British institution, and sells off parts of it to their mates, in order to protect Britishness. Sums up Tory politics nicely, really.

okeuro49 4y ago
During the Covid time, the Labour party handed the Conservatives a blank check to do whatever they wanted with. Accordingly, the Conservatives gave lucrative contracts to all their friends. The current Labour party are useless holding them to account.
inglor_cz 4y ago
Not a Brit, but curious. Looking at the total healthcare expenditure before covid, it consistently hovered around 10 per cent of the total British GDP. https://www.statista.com/statistics/317708/healthcare-expenditure-as-a-share-of-gdp-in-the-united-kingdom/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/317708/healthcare-expend... If this is underfunded for you, how many per cent would be funded enough? Accidentally, the EU average is about 10 per cent, with 12 member countries scoring less than 7.5 per cent of GDP. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Healthcare_expenditure_statistics#Healthcare_expenditure https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... From what I see, the British values seem absolutely normal to me, and healthcare results (life expectancy, 5-year survival of cancers) are just fine, especially given how fat British people have become.
- Dagger2 4y ago
  "Funded enough" would mean things like GP appointments in days rather than weeks, and specialized diagnosis/treatment in weeks rather than years. What percentage of GDP would be needed for that? That question would require a lot of data and analysis to answer, far more than would be reasonable to expect for an HN comment.
  - inglor_cz 4y ago
    Is it possible that the problem isn't caused by lack of money, but by organizational issues?
    - Dagger2 4y ago
      The problem is caused by the current in-power political party wanting to run the NHS into the ground so they can use the resulting bad performance to justify selling it off to their mates.

Supporting the party which consistently underfunds a British institution, and sells off parts of it to their mates, in order to protect Britishness. Sums up Tory politics nicely, really.

okeuro49 4y ago

During the Covid time, the Labour party handed the Conservatives a blank check to do whatever they wanted with. Accordingly, the Conservatives gave lucrative contracts to all their friends. The current Labour party are useless holding them to account.

inglor_cz 4y ago

Not a Brit, but curious. Looking at the total healthcare expenditure before covid, it consistently hovered around 10 per cent of the total British GDP. https://www.statista.com/statistics/317708/healthcare-expenditure-as-a-share-of-gdp-in-the-united-kingdom/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/317708/healthcare-expend... If this is underfunded for you, how many per cent would be funded enough? Accidentally, the EU average is about 10 per cent, with 12 member countries scoring less than 7.5 per cent of GDP. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Healthcare_expenditure_statistics#Healthcare_expenditure https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... From what I see, the British values seem absolutely normal to me, and healthcare results (life expectancy, 5-year survival of cancers) are just fine, especially given how fat British people have become.

Dagger2 4y ago
"Funded enough" would mean things like GP appointments in days rather than weeks, and specialized diagnosis/treatment in weeks rather than years. What percentage of GDP would be needed for that? That question would require a lot of data and analysis to answer, far more than would be reasonable to expect for an HN comment.
- inglor_cz 4y ago
  Is it possible that the problem isn't caused by lack of money, but by organizational issues?
  - Dagger2 4y ago
    The problem is caused by the current in-power political party wanting to run the NHS into the ground so they can use the resulting bad performance to justify selling it off to their mates.