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But let's ignore the blairite solution to sell the land and get further into debt and refuse to take more money from the populace or detach NHS funding from sta
by rob_c 4y ago
But let's ignore the blairite solution to sell the land and get further into debt and refuse to take more money from the populace or detach NHS funding from state pensions...
- acallaghan 4y agoI mean blaming the PM that was last in power over 15 years ago seems a stretch?
- rob_c 4y agoYes citing counter example of how the problem is not on one side of the political divide is clearly wrong...
- kergonath 4y agoTwo wrongs do not make a right. I’d wager the people upset about the Tories are not by and large enamoured with Tony Blair’s New Labour either.
- rob_c 4y agoYou would think that but a lot of people can't see beyond its the Tories in power. We'd be better off with proportional representation but the beeb did an excellent job at mis-selling that to the masses
- kergonath 4y agoIt is frustrating to see the country getting polarised this way. A 2-party system is not helpful to a functioning democracy. I am not a fan of fully proportional representation as it leads to government instability and ineffectiveness, but a party getting an absolute majority in Parliament whilst getting 40% of the vote is a travesty. Also, after having lived through Brexit and the successive government, the BBC is not fit for purpose. It is fine as a public media group, but it’s sanctity in the mind of a lot of British people is not really well founded.
- rob_c 4y agoYeah have to agree with pretty much all of that. My worry is that we are defecto the 52nd state these days and we've adopted the 2 party system from across the pond since the coalition was little more than a sitting government against fox hunting, their arguably biggest achievement was placing Cameron in a position where he bailed after throwing national policy under the bus to appease his own party. I won't pretend that Brexit hasn't been mishandled as a lot of the opposition predicted (also in news water wet), but the EU/EC has unfortunately for them shown a lot of its attitude toward Britain is as promoters had been saying. Sorry not maeaning to derail too much.
- n4r9 4y agoI'd argue that the UK has always had a 2-party system, and if anything the US adopted it from us. The Lab/Con split goes back to ~1910, prior to which we had the Tory/Liberal split going back to ~1850, prior to which we had a Tory/Whig split going back to ~1780, prior to which the political system was very different.
- verytrivial 4y agoI'm not sure this is a very strong defence of how the Government has managed the NHS since then, though is it? Or should I read this as a veiled appeal for Corbyn to return as the leader of the Opposition for another try? (In which case I'll take my leave.)
- rob_c 4y agoI'm not citing evidence for that I'm showing how both sides of the political divide won't dare touch the holy cow that is the NHS. It's interesting how every time you show there's a problem with a political party everyone assumes instead of damning the system your trying to politically point score. I think the real change needs to be made in the civil service and certain powers striped from Whitehall but it'll never happen.