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True. The web was built on top of the internet, which gave it a huge boost. Today, it's hard to separate the www and the internet, they seem almost 1 combined
by hyperman1 4y ago
True. The web was built on top of the internet, which gave it a huge boost. Today, it's hard to separate the www and the internet, they seem almost 1 combined entity.
I wasn't there, but the internet presumably had value before the www, by having email, ftp and usenet.
It also demonstrates how futile nationalistic feelings are on computers. We invented the internet says the USA. We invented the www, says Europe. Both are irrelevant to the point they are almost wrong. The tech got valuable only because a planet worked together.
- macintux 4y ago> I wasn't there, but the internet presumably had value before the www, by having email, ftp and usenet. Don’t forget telnet and multi—player games. The Internet was a pretty cool place before ad networks conquered it.
- GekkePrutser 4y agoThey did but the cracks are showing. China with their great firewall. Even Western countries censoring stuff. Russia making sure they can function independently because they'll probably be sanctioned one day. It's far from one happy family.
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- ethbr0 4y ago> I wasn't there, but the internet presumably had value before the www, by having email, ftp and usenet. As someone who was barely there, it was largely a standardized client problem. That's why NSCA Mosaic and later Netscape Navigator were so important. The Internet provided transport... but for what? To GP's standardization point, the Internet wouldn't have been successful if every server required you to have a different client to talk a different protocol. (The landscape was very different than that in which mobile apps now live) Web protocols + a client browser that understood them = palatable UX
- AlbertCory 4y agoThat's true. However, before the web, it was absolutely common to anonftp to some site, download the software, type ./configure and make, and off you went. That's how software got distributed. And Internet standards. Not the same as the web, of course, and your grandmother wouldn't have been doing it.
- rolph 4y agoone of the bigger problems was telneting between VAX and UNIX systems. there was content back then, but no curation. we would telnet from one machine to another using CLI. the reward was a wall of ASCII highly formatted with extended fonts. you could lurk in the login areas trying unix-fu or find a mud or a BBS. there was always tin for reading usenet as a method of content search. there wasnt so much content fiefdom, you could share links or post content with little oversight except numbers of attendance.
- rolph 4y agoi was there. one night on a dumpster dive i found a minitel terminal [i thought it was "trash" but it was perfectly working.] it dialed out no problem, there was a queue of phone numbers I was launched into a world of freenets and BBSs