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This is fine as long as you don’t plan to travel to China in the future.

by gpt5 4y ago

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
Please explain why this is different from traveling to any other country. I haven't been to the US since they made it legal for custom officers to search travelers' personal electronics without a warrant and deny entry if you refuse, because, thanks but no thanks.
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- wonderbore 4y ago
  > Please explain why this is different from traveling to any other country. My guess is that the "trigger" for "any other country" is much higher. Criticize the US President all you like on every social network: not a problem. Save a screenshot of Winnie the Pooh: you're playing with fire.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    > Criticize the US President all you like on every social network: not a problem. given that this [1] already happened in my country, and also this [2] also happened (just to name a couple) and nobody paid, that there are 13,000 American soldiers on my Country's soil and that this [3] man has been POTUS and is probably running again for election, I wouldn't say "not a problem". US could reach me at my house if they wanted to, OTOH PRC can't do much. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case [3] https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-... > Save a screenshot of Winnie the Pooh: you're playing with fire. I imagine this is sarcasm. Winnie the Pooh has never actually put anyone in real troubles.
    - lupire 4y ago
      In China, Winnie the Pooh is illegal, because the dictator looks similar.
    - hedora 4y ago
      Here's an example of a chinese Univerity of Minnesota grad student that tweeted Winnie the Pooh (among other things) while in the US, and was later imprisoned in China for it: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/university-of-minnesota-student-imprisoned-in-china-for-mocking-xi-jinping https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/university-of-minnes...
      - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
        a Chinese student. I don't support China methods, but mocking the president of your country in public, from abroad, when you know what your Country is is capable of is not a smart move, ever. It happens everywhere, different solutions, same goal: censorship and setting an example. https://time.com/4644297/saturday-night-live-katie-rich-suspended-barron-trump/ https://time.com/4644297/saturday-night-live-katie-rich-susp...
        wonderbore 4y ago
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    - wonderbore 4y ago
jacknews 4y ago
Or to any China-aligned or vassal states, they don't need to bother with complex extradition procedures, they just ask the government 'nicely'. eg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cambodia-china-uighurs-idUSTRE5BI0TX20091219 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cambodia-china-uighurs-id...
- contingencies 4y ago
  IIRC both Cambodia (2012) and Thailand (2014) extradited TPB founders. Thailand case was already convicted for "aiding copyright infringement" (ie. pissing off a cabal of private companies) and had skipped bail, nabbed crossing inbound from Laos. Cambodia case was unconvicted and the countries had no extradition treaty, but they nabbed him anyway. Possibly because of alleged Wikileaks affiliation. Democracy in action.

This is fine as long as you don’t plan to travel to China in the future.

by gpt5 4y ago

This is fine as long as you don’t plan to travel to China in the future.

Please explain why this is different from traveling to any other country. I haven't been to the US since they made it legal for custom officers to search travelers' personal electronics without a warrant and deny entry if you refuse, because, thanks but no thanks.

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wonderbore 4y ago
> Please explain why this is different from traveling to any other country. My guess is that the "trigger" for "any other country" is much higher. Criticize the US President all you like on every social network: not a problem. Save a screenshot of Winnie the Pooh: you're playing with fire.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  > Criticize the US President all you like on every social network: not a problem. given that this [1] already happened in my country, and also this [2] also happened (just to name a couple) and nobody paid, that there are 13,000 American soldiers on my Country's soil and that this [3] man has been POTUS and is probably running again for election, I wouldn't say "not a problem". US could reach me at my house if they wanted to, OTOH PRC can't do much. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case [3] https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-... > Save a screenshot of Winnie the Pooh: you're playing with fire. I imagine this is sarcasm. Winnie the Pooh has never actually put anyone in real troubles.
  - lupire 4y ago
    In China, Winnie the Pooh is illegal, because the dictator looks similar.
  - hedora 4y ago
    Here's an example of a chinese Univerity of Minnesota grad student that tweeted Winnie the Pooh (among other things) while in the US, and was later imprisoned in China for it: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/university-of-minnesota-student-imprisoned-in-china-for-mocking-xi-jinping https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/university-of-minnes...
    - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
      a Chinese student. I don't support China methods, but mocking the president of your country in public, from abroad, when you know what your Country is is capable of is not a smart move, ever. It happens everywhere, different solutions, same goal: censorship and setting an example. https://time.com/4644297/saturday-night-live-katie-rich-suspended-barron-trump/ https://time.com/4644297/saturday-night-live-katie-rich-susp...
      - wonderbore 4y ago
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  - wonderbore 4y ago

jacknews 4y ago

Or to any China-aligned or vassal states, they don't need to bother with complex extradition procedures, they just ask the government 'nicely'. eg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cambodia-china-uighurs-idUSTRE5BI0TX20091219 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cambodia-china-uighurs-id...

contingencies 4y ago
IIRC both Cambodia (2012) and Thailand (2014) extradited TPB founders. Thailand case was already convicted for "aiding copyright infringement" (ie. pissing off a cabal of private companies) and had skipped bail, nabbed crossing inbound from Laos. Cambodia case was unconvicted and the countries had no extradition treaty, but they nabbed him anyway. Possibly because of alleged Wikileaks affiliation. Democracy in action.