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If I'm understanding gp correctly, porkbun won't be any better. The issue is with cloud flare. Just change the NS on hover to point it where you want it. Hover

If I'm understanding gp correctly, porkbun won't be any better. The issue is with cloud flare. Just change the NS on hover to point it where you want it. Hover has a very nice UI for this.

brundolf 4y ago
If I understood them correctly, hover has a (terrible) mechanism where if you've changed your NS to a third party for some domain, it automatically sets all new registered domains to the same NS. This would then leave you wide open to this sort of attack unless you make sure to immediately go on that third-party and associate each new domain with your account there too. So it could be solved by going back to first-party NS on hover (though I couldn't figure out in their UI how to do this), but the overall poor decision on their part undermines my confidence in their entire service, so that's why I'm switching registrars (I'd already seen people on here praise porkbun, I just didn't have a specific reason to go through the transfer process)
- toast0 4y ago
  It's been a while since I used hover, but I wouldn't consider it horrible, and I think you had to set it as an account setting, I don't think it happened by default... But if I obtain a new domain, of course I want it to point at my existing DNS servers, that's what they're for. In general, it's hard to know which nameservers are going to do the wrong thing with that, and I don't want to use my registrar's DNS ever, but many registries prohibit registering names without setting NS records, so what do you want them to do?
  - brundolf 4y ago
    Putting it on the registrar's servers to begin with would be safest, because they already know you have control of that domain (so nobody else could usurp NS control out from under you). I can understand the convenience of being able to set a different default, but it seems like a huge footgun to leave open, especially if it happens automatically (which, I don't remember ever setting a default on purpose)

If I'm understanding gp correctly, porkbun won't be any better. The issue is with cloud flare. Just change the NS on hover to point it where you want it. Hover has a very nice UI for this.

brundolf 4y ago

If I understood them correctly, hover has a (terrible) mechanism where if you've changed your NS to a third party for some domain, it automatically sets all new registered domains to the same NS. This would then leave you wide open to this sort of attack unless you make sure to immediately go on that third-party and associate each new domain with your account there too. So it could be solved by going back to first-party NS on hover (though I couldn't figure out in their UI how to do this), but the overall poor decision on their part undermines my confidence in their entire service, so that's why I'm switching registrars (I'd already seen people on here praise porkbun, I just didn't have a specific reason to go through the transfer process)

toast0 4y ago
It's been a while since I used hover, but I wouldn't consider it horrible, and I think you had to set it as an account setting, I don't think it happened by default... But if I obtain a new domain, of course I want it to point at my existing DNS servers, that's what they're for. In general, it's hard to know which nameservers are going to do the wrong thing with that, and I don't want to use my registrar's DNS ever, but many registries prohibit registering names without setting NS records, so what do you want them to do?
- brundolf 4y ago
  Putting it on the registrar's servers to begin with would be safest, because they already know you have control of that domain (so nobody else could usurp NS control out from under you). I can understand the convenience of being able to set a different default, but it seems like a huge footgun to leave open, especially if it happens automatically (which, I don't remember ever setting a default on purpose)