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While it would likely be prohibitively expensive, I really wish there was an independent board that would certify software engineering as a certification and r
by throwaway675309 4y ago
While it would likely be prohibitively expensive, I really wish there was an independent board that would certify software engineering as a certification and required an oral defense in the same style as a PhD.
I recognize that it's kind of gatekeeping but it feels like more and more diploma mills are just hanging out degrees, not to mention all the coding camps out there.
- j-bos 4y agoAs someone who has excelled in non credentialled industries and seen enough credentialed proffessionals coast by, I much prefer that companies do their diligence in hiring and firing, rather than ousourcing it to central regulatory body destined to ossify.
- LtWorf 4y agoThat's how it works in italy. The bad side is that to be an engineer you have to pay a yearly fee as well :D
- bigDinosaur 4y agoBeing an actual engineer (software) is different to just being a software engineer, and the former is very commonly highly regulated.
- WalterBright 4y agoBeing an actual engineer myself, I discovered that an official Professional Engineer license has little correlation with competence.
- bigDinosaur 4y agoI don't really doubt that, and that's why I'm glad software in general places much less emphasis on licensing than other industries.
- LtWorf 4y agoIn italy software engineers are actual engineers.
- bigDinosaur 4y agoI hope, for the sake of your software industry, that this only relates to calling yourself an engineer, and not to the general practice of software development. If you have to be a licensed engineer to work in software in Italy then that'd be a colossal drag on anything interesting happening in that industry.
- 0xCAP 4y agoNo, that's not mandatory. Actually, only the big, shitty, consultancy shops (Accenture, Deloitte, etc) look stricly for licensed engineers, mostly because, funnily enough, they're usually hired for much less than the average SWEs. Actually there's kind of a shared feeling in the industry that licensed software engineers are dumbasses.
- bigDinosaur 4y agoThat's actually really amusing. Thanks for the insight!
- LtWorf 4y agoThey want licensed engineers so they hire them as consultants and pay no sick leave and vacations. Becoming licensed is mostly needed if you want to work on your own. You pay less taxes but have ZERO safety, so in theory you should earn much more and work for many customers. But those shitty consultancy companies hire consultants and pay them very little.