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Good if it's useful to us humans, bad if it's harmful.

11235813213455 4y ago
For example wasps are extremely precious, for their role in pollination, in the ecosystem in general https://www.thoughtco.com/what-good-are-wasps-1968081 https://www.thoughtco.com/what-good-are-wasps-1968081 But I'm sure most people will say they're bad because of the risk of a bite, neglicting and/or ignoring how they indirectly help us to live
- cassepipe 4y ago
  OK, TIL wasps are pollinators
  - macintux 4y ago
    Mosquitos too, for that matter, for orchids. https://www.thoughtco.com/insect-pollinators-that-arent-bees-or-butterflies-1967996 https://www.thoughtco.com/insect-pollinators-that-arent-bees...
  - 11235813213455 4y ago
    most flying insects do pollinate, or even ants
  - awelxtr 4y ago
    Yup, in fact there are some fig genus that depend solely on some specific wasps for pollination
- laumars 4y ago
  Some wasps are, but unfortunately not the ones that are pests to humans. Plus it’s ironic to talk about wasps being good pollinators when they attack bees and other pollinators.
  - 11235813213455 4y ago
    wasp do as much pollination than bees, please do your own research on this, wasps don't deserve this undeserved bad press
    - laumars 4y ago
      I’ve read plenty on this. I also live next door to a bee keeper on one side, and a farm on the other. So have first hand experience too.
      - 11235813213455 4y ago
        It's a bit like sharks, or wolves. If you are more experienced on this, on the complexity of ecosystems, you will start to figure the direct loss of production they can cause is relatively small and very well compensated by the role their indirect role in the ecosystem, less wasps could mean more caterpillars or other parasites (bad for farmer and beekeeper since bees will have less plants to forage). Bees know since a long time how to protect themselves. There's a reason scientist explain how sharks, wolves, wasps are highly beneficial. I think fortunately there's a growing awareness about this, more and more farmers understand these things as the condition for farming, pollution, drought, climate changes make things way harder for conventional agriculture methods
        laumars 4y ago
        > If you are more experienced on this, on the complexity of ecosystems, you will start to figure the direct loss of production they can cause is relatively small and very well compensated by the role their indirect role in the ecosystem Steady on there with the arrogance mate. At no point did I say all wasps should die or that their environmental impact was precisely zero.
        11235813213455 4y ago
        No wasp at all should be eliminated, and their environmental impact is of course beneficial like basically all wild life (compared to the detrimental impact of a human, a pet), even the one you call "pest" for just turning around humans and killing a super small percentage of bees, let's stop living on opinions, best
colechristensen 4y ago
Are polar bears useful or bad for humans? Would a toddler at the zoo and a polar resident have differing opinions?

For example wasps are extremely precious, for their role in pollination, in the ecosystem in general https://www.thoughtco.com/what-good-are-wasps-1968081 https://www.thoughtco.com/what-good-are-wasps-1968081 But I'm sure most people will say they're bad because of the risk of a bite, neglicting and/or ignoring how they indirectly help us to live

cassepipe 4y ago
OK, TIL wasps are pollinators
- macintux 4y ago
  Mosquitos too, for that matter, for orchids. https://www.thoughtco.com/insect-pollinators-that-arent-bees-or-butterflies-1967996 https://www.thoughtco.com/insect-pollinators-that-arent-bees...
- 11235813213455 4y ago
  most flying insects do pollinate, or even ants
- awelxtr 4y ago
  Yup, in fact there are some fig genus that depend solely on some specific wasps for pollination
laumars 4y ago
Some wasps are, but unfortunately not the ones that are pests to humans. Plus it’s ironic to talk about wasps being good pollinators when they attack bees and other pollinators.
- 11235813213455 4y ago
  wasp do as much pollination than bees, please do your own research on this, wasps don't deserve this undeserved bad press
  - laumars 4y ago
    I’ve read plenty on this. I also live next door to a bee keeper on one side, and a farm on the other. So have first hand experience too.
    - 11235813213455 4y ago
      It's a bit like sharks, or wolves. If you are more experienced on this, on the complexity of ecosystems, you will start to figure the direct loss of production they can cause is relatively small and very well compensated by the role their indirect role in the ecosystem, less wasps could mean more caterpillars or other parasites (bad for farmer and beekeeper since bees will have less plants to forage). Bees know since a long time how to protect themselves. There's a reason scientist explain how sharks, wolves, wasps are highly beneficial. I think fortunately there's a growing awareness about this, more and more farmers understand these things as the condition for farming, pollution, drought, climate changes make things way harder for conventional agriculture methods
      - laumars 4y ago
        > If you are more experienced on this, on the complexity of ecosystems, you will start to figure the direct loss of production they can cause is relatively small and very well compensated by the role their indirect role in the ecosystem Steady on there with the arrogance mate. At no point did I say all wasps should die or that their environmental impact was precisely zero.
        11235813213455 4y ago
        No wasp at all should be eliminated, and their environmental impact is of course beneficial like basically all wild life (compared to the detrimental impact of a human, a pet), even the one you call "pest" for just turning around humans and killing a super small percentage of bees, let's stop living on opinions, best

colechristensen 4y ago

Are polar bears useful or bad for humans? Would a toddler at the zoo and a polar resident have differing opinions?