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So you want to be a consultant? (2005)
- lakomen 4y agoSo consultants are people who don't work and get paid for being smartass, gotcha. I can do that, where do I sign?
- satisfice 4y agoThis is surprisingly good. (I’ve run a consulting company for 23 years, so I am in a position to judge.) I call my customers “clients,” though. I don’t buy the it-implies-they-are-lesser-than-you argument.
- em-bee 4y agoi avoid the term client to avoid confusion with client/server terminology. a customer is always a person. a client is often a software application.
- satisfice 4y agoThat is a good argument, I admit. At least for some contexts. When I hear "customer" I just feel like we are always talking about exchange of money.
- tailspin2019 4y agoWow, that was one of the best articles that I’ve ever read on this topic. Well worth reading, for anyone self employed. Some of this advice could be applied to normal employment too, eg owning your mistakes and generally working in an authentic trustworthy way.
- whiddershins 4y ago> It's tempting to just get a good tax guy, but the taxes are not the hard part: it's the recordkeeping that categorizes which of your expenses are properly business expenses. It's not fair — or at least a bad idea — to drop off a box of receipts to your tax guy and have him try to read your mind. Good tax guys are not cheap, and you want to pay him to prepare your taxes, not do your bookkeeping. This insight is gold. Seriously. Everyone thinks they want a rockstar accountant when what they really need is a bookkeeper (or to just organize their books in a systematic, consistent way).
- iancmceachern 4y ago100%
- LAC-Tech 4y agoRead this one before, I think before I came self-employed. Made a few of the mistakes he's talked about. I'll share them in the hope it might help someone else. Your customer certainly has to believe you can do the job, but they cannot wonder if you're going to get back to them, or if you're going to do something stupid (again?), or offend one of their customers. I've definitely offended a customer of a customer before. It was a customer who was well known for being rude - a running joke through the whole company. But I definitely ruffled some feathers when I got sick of their shit and left the call. Part of me thinks I should have been more zen and let the insults wash over me. But another part of me thinks that prevention is better than the cure and a frank conversation with my client about what I was willing to tolerate would have been the way to go. I mean, do you have to be a smiling doormat to excel in business? You have no job security, even if you think you do Yeap. Twice at the end of a full time contract, I found another one extremely easily. The one I left at the beginning of this year I still haven't really covered from, and I've essentially had to change niches and start from scratch. Very keen to optimise for multiple part time roles from now on. You are primarily in the customer service business, not the technical business I have made this mistake before to an extent. Zero in on what your customer actually wants not your technical wizardry. This is the easiest to manage: you work an hour, you invoice the customer for a hour. For occasional or ill-defined work, it's hard to use anything but hourly billing. The customer bears the brunt of projects that get out of hand, and the customer is really at the mercy of the consultant for being fair. I disagree with this one though. An hour is way too fine grained - there's much less paperwork and micro accounting with daily. Strongly considered charging weekly next year.
- social_quotient 4y agoGreat points! “You have no job security, even if you think you do” This is a 100% true for consultants as well as agencies. Now matter how “partnery” things feel you are always as good as your last billable hour. When COVID started we got an email at 6am march 1st. Effective immediately no consultants or agencies. Boom revenue gone that we have depended on for maybe 5-6 years. Another client we had been doing Wi-Fi analytics for their 1200 retail locations in North America, 12 years. March 15th they said they cannot budget services any longer. For all the years we had been partners, you really are in a “nothing personal business engagement”. I’ve been doing this 22 years so I’ve seen it all. The key is to not let these things drive the day to day interaction with the customer but you need not forget what’s possible so you can plan accordingly.
- iancmceachern 4y agoThis is good stuff
- mackatsol 4y agoExcellent article! Thank you. I’ve been consulting for a long time.. and this piece covered all the things that matter.
- extragood 4y agoI found this really insightful as someone who runs a small consultancy/professional services department within a larger company. I agree with a lot of what he's written (some terminology aside), but we have different perspectives on billing. My department's engagements are exclusively 'fixed-bid projects'. Truth be told, I'd prefer hourly billing as it reduces our risk. There is an omnipresent danger that we've horribly under-estimated the effort required to deliver a project, but the customer isn't concerned about that. They are interested in minimizing their own risk. And the fixed bid is a guarantee of X results for $Y, which has more safeties in place. I suppose that's why the author has to explicitly spell out how to fire him.
- AdieuToLogic 4y ago> There is an omnipresent danger that we've horribly under-estimated the effort required to deliver a project, but the customer isn't concerned about that. Which is why the author states: > These require highly detailed specifications that list exactly what is expected of the consultant. If it's not entirely clear what the requirements are, there will be endless disagreements over whether this or that is in the scope of work: The customer will think it is (you work for free), and you will think it isn't (customer pay me more). And when you say: > They are interested in minimizing their own risk. You are entirely correct in that this is what customers want. What this also implies is risk is transferred to the consultancy if the aforementioned detailed specifications (contract) does not exist or is sufficiently vague. > And the fixed bid is a guarantee of X results for $Y, which has more safeties in place. If and only if the specifications are inflexible or recourse has been established such that "scope creep" can be negotiated. Otherwise, the only "safeties in place" are that $Y is all a customer will pay, no matter what X becomes.
- squirrel 4y agoFrom 2005 (see bottom of http://unixwiz.net/techtips/ http://unixwiz.net/techtips/ ) Also, Alan Weiss and Jonathan Stark cover similar material in more depth, for those interested.
- bgoated01 4y agoAre there specific articles/books from those authors that you would recommend?
- muzani 4y agoAlan Weiss's Million Dollar Consulting sounds dodgy but it's a popular book among consultants.
- rolisz 4y agoExcept they are very much against hourly billing and they strongly recommend value based pricing.
- jaqalopes 4y agoThis is the consultant training course I never received but wish I had. Even now, 8 years into my consulting career (not tech but many of these ideas still apply), I found a lot here that either confirms what I've learned the hard way or spells out something I've encountered but never thought about. This is exactly the kind of stuff I come to HN for, great share.
- em-bee 4y agoWhen your customer pages you, his timer starts: return his call immediately this really depends on the customer. if the customer is of the kind that won't let me off the hook once i respond, then i won't respond immideately. (unless i actually have time to focus for at least an hour). on the other hand my best/favorite customer is wonderful at this front. while i don't always reply immediately, there is never a problem to listen to his message and tell him i'll get to that in a few hours or whenever my schedule allows. Admit your mistakes while i wouldn't have returned both the original and the accidentally duplicated fee since the error and the reason for the error was an obvious slipup, returning money for shoddy work or for any work that causes the customer to loose money is definitely something i like to do. a customer being always late with payments is the least of my reasons to fire someone. i may do that when i have more work than i need. but i rather have a customer that's pleasant to work with and pays late than an uncomfortable one that pays on time. Generally, you cannot reuse a whole project because it represents customer-specific functionality hardly. at least in web development the only thing customer specific is the graphic design. most everything else is reusable. i am not even writing custom backends anymore, but i reuse the same backend for all projects. it's mostly just CRUD. and maybe one or two custom functions added to an object in the backend somewhere. to that end, the backend i use is GPL, and together with the frontend framework makes up the bulk of the code. but that's all done. what little code i end up writing is custom for the project, and that is what the customer pays for.
- scarface74 4y agoMy one rule is that I don’t do “staff augmentation” under any circumstances. I only “consult” when I am actually bringing in my subject matter expertise or projects where there is a “definition of done” and I can put myself out of job.
- RajT88 4y agoA lot of people don't realize how risky staff aug can be. A good and properly managed customer relationship it is fine. But even then expectations can rapidly get misaligned.
- scarface74 4y agoIn all fairness, I work in the cloud consulting department at $BigTech. I have to be able to talk about my projects based on results, not just that I billed the customer $x hours a week. You can get staff augmentation people a lot cheaper than us. We don’t want the customer to have an ongoing dependency on us. We want them to either be self sufficient after we complete a project or be using a third party “partner”.
- RajT88 4y agoWe may work at the same company. This is how the consulting department operates here. With regards to Staff Aug, I was speaking to my consulting experience at another company. That company operated like a lot of consulting companies I've worked with, where their attitude was (and I quote): "A maniacal pursuit of revenue"
- scarface74 4y agoIt’s nothing I keep secret. I work at AWS ProServe. But I also know that MS has always been focused on growing their partner network.
- miles 4y agoThe author, Steve Friedl (brother of Jeffrey Friedl, of regex fame[0]), is not only a wizard but also an inspiration; this article had a huge positive impact on me early in my career. Here are two other times it generated a number of comments on HN: 2008: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=411994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=411994 2010: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1430968 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1430968 [0] http://regex.info http://regex.info
- KennyBlanken 4y agoHe's a wizard who apparently can't be bothered to configure HTTPS on his webserver to protect the security of visitors, nor enjoy the benefits of better search results placement...
- miles 4y agoAnother legendary wizard, Paul Graham (founder of HN), also sees fit to serve his personal page[0] purely unencrypted; "elegant protocols for a more civilized age" (apologies to Ben Kenobi). [0] http://www.paulgraham.com/ http://www.paulgraham.com/
- arghnoname 4y agoHonest question: what security would be gained by encrypting the contents of a static web page. The specific urls visited (but not the domain itself)?
- soulofmischief 4y agoThe data can be tampered with in transit.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 4y agoYou can inject dynamic content into a static site in transit.
- jlokier 4y agoA few years ago someone reviewing a public page I was serving over HTTP came and asked "It is breaking the page on my browser, producing a weird console error, and I don't like the look of some of the things the JavaScript code does." This person's review affected whether we'd use my work or not. I found the criticism puzzling, because I couldn't explain the condone error, and did nothing bad in JavaScript. It took several days before I asked them to show me the page in their browser, and then to show me which bit of JavaScript was bothering them. I didn't recognise the code, and wondered what I had screwed up with my build scripts. But when I looked at the page with my browser we found the source of errors: The ISP used by the institution we worked at was injecting its own code into every HTML front page for tracking or some other unclear purposes. It had been doing this for all devices connected to the network and nobody knew. That was our motivation to switch all our static pages to HTTPS asap, and towards an HTTP client relay VPN at the router, because other sites accessd by users inside the institution should not be subjected to ISP code injection either.
- robomartin 4y agoGood article. One of the many things I would add: Don’t get bullied into signing overly broad NDA’s or contracts. Never be afraid to walk away from heavily one-sided agreements. They are not worth the potential future consequences. On the other hand, amateur-hour super-broad NDA’s are not enforceable. You either need experience or an attorney to spot these. Be careful or you could NDA yourself out of an industry.
- Silhouette 4y agoDon’t get bullied into signing overly broad NDA’s or contracts. Never be afraid to walk away from heavily one-sided agreements. I have been stunned a few times by terms proposed by very large and well-known recruitment agencies here in the UK. A few lawyers I know and a few recruiters I know who work for better firms couldn't believe them either. We're talking basic stuff like you agree to fix any defects free of charge when there's barely any spec there in the first place, you accept unlimited financial liability and must carry an amount of insurance wildly disproportionate to the value of the gig itself, you give indefinite commitments that could interrupt your future work at any time forever, you accept an NDA with enough scope to potentially exclude working within entire industries, or my personal favourite, they have a right to refuse to pay you for services rendered if they arbitrarily declare those services not to be satisfactory. I've noticed that these terms always seem to be proposed with some kind of imminent deadline. They can't possibly confirm tomorrow's introductory phone call with the real end client until you've signed their NDA and the 30 pages of unrelated legalese like the above that are bundled with it. They need you to agree in writing that you'll accept the gig based on nothing but a short summary and then they finally send the full terms late on the day before you're supposed to start and you need to agree to those as well or the deal is off. But don't worry because they've placed a million other people using those terms before and it's been reviewed thousands of times by other lawyers and remarkably not a single one has ever noticed the things you spotted in ten seconds that literally made your lawyer laugh out loud when you said "This looks bad and I shouldn't agree to it, right?". These days if I had to deal with recruiters or agencies at all and they came up with anything like that I would just take it as a big warning sign that absolutely everything they say or do is not to be trusted and must be vetted by your own legal and financial advisors before agreeing to it. Walking away becomes the default response unless the agency agrees to a counterproposal locked up tighter than Fort Knox. And those agencies never do IME so actually just walking away immediately is probably the best option.
- AdieuToLogic 4y ago> Have "customers", not "clients" This point is huge. By thinking of those whom engage your services as customers and not clients (or even worse; "users"), it serves as a reminder that while what a consultant offers is often specialized and hard-to-find skills, those same skills are only of value if they serve to benefit the customer. Within reason, of course. This was stated in another way by the author: > A client implies that the consultant is superior, while customer suggests that the consultant is beholden.
- fuzzfactor 4y agoI think this is critical too and the author is on point with the same concept. I just go back to a more old-fashioned application of the terminology. There is a similarity between a private practice of a single physician, or an individual attorney, whether or not they may operate single-handedly or employ an administrator or staff like nurse or paralegal. OTOH you've got major hospitals and large law partnerships. But these are "industries" which for centuries it was recognized as unethical to persuasively advertise or use any type of pressurized sales tactics. Just because advertising these things has been legal for decades now, it remains to be seen if that was actually the wisest aproach. For one thing patients and injury victims are no longer just the treatment subjects but now financial commodities in addition. Well back then the attorneys always had clients who were expected to engage them purely based on reputation and word-of-mouth, doctors too except they just called them patients as always. There would seem to be stronger incentive for achieving better reputation when persuasive approaches are recognized as unethical. In business "clients" were the ones that came to you, "customers" were the ones that needed a little sales pitch. Now an engineering office, or even a pure sales office, can operate along the same business model. Where the paying client who comes to you based on reputation & word-of-mouth because of what you have to offer is your real bread & butter. This must seriously project value to the payer, form a good foundation, and it will capture those that would run the other way at the hint of persuasiveness or upselling of any kind. So for terminology to me the "client" is nothing like the familiar concept in computer science, it is further from being like a "user", and instead a notch above the valued "customer" who is one that needs to be persuaded a bit to come along, sometimes continuously. The customer gets teated like they are always right, even when it's not true, and the traditional clients end up with an even better feeling. For the entire experience all must feel like they are getting their money's worth in a more personalized way than a general business "customer" would expect. Nothing could be warmer or fuzzier. Having more familiarity with each client then will lead to those among them who occasionally would not only respond to a growth marketing effort, but would be eager to participate just to see you grow to serve them better and more extensively. This is probably not something you want to subject all your clients to. Though it is possible to base many businesses on a marketing strategy for their bread & butter, alternatively it might be better to base it on something unique to offer. So future marketing effort offers more of a bonanza potential rather than just a baseline income stream.
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- paulpauper 4y agoSeems like so much work, but I guess it's worth it if you get momentum going through word of mouth, which means more billable hours and less self-promotion. Dealing with taxes, invoices, customer demands, etc. Seems so overwhelming.
- osullip 4y ago>Dealing with taxes, invoices, customer demands, etc The best thing I have done is to put systems in place to handle these, often paid for SAAS services. Use a good project management tool to track time (Basecamp, Teamwork). Pay for an accounting package (Xero, MYOB, Wave for US and Canada) and use automated follow up (Debtor Daddy). Use a ticketing system (Zendesk, Freshdesk, Hubspot) Use a calendar booking system (Calendly) Train your customers to contact you through those means. Use Zapier to tie everything together. Probably $200 a month - or two hours work out of a possible 120 billable hours (I work on 30 hours billable a week). Spend some money on a good virtual assistant. They will save your life.
- msadowski 4y agoWow, this is the most complete write up on the subject I have come across. I’ve been consulting for 4 years and all the points ring true.