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What is the stigma about pairing dry red wine with salmon?

number6 4y ago
Ohh you wouldn't understand... /s
ethbr0 4y ago
Typically white wine is paired with fish, which is very lean and delicate of flavor. (Caveat: salmon, swordfish, tuna, etc. are somewhat oddballs due to their unique flavor profiles) Some would say a dry red wine with grilled salmon is like highlighting with a black sharpie. But, as parent said, if those are flavors you like... it's your tongue you're trying to please, mate! Same reason I gave people zero pushback at ice in wine at weddings. It's 90+ F (32+ C) outside! Do what makes you most happy.
FredPret 4y ago
White meat - white wine, red meat - red wine… says the rule
krisoft 4y ago
Small picture is that white wines are supposed to pair up better with fish, and chicken while red wines go with red meats. The big picture is that this is a shibboleth[1]. Humans, or some humans, seems to delight in finding ways to define the in-group and the out-group. Signs marking you as an outsider can be anything. Where i have grown up wearing the wrong kind of shoelaces in your boots meant that you are not a “real” rocker but a wannabe. Listening to the “wrong” bands, or listening to the right bands “wrong” can be a similar signifyer. Or wearing socks with your sandal, or asking for ketchup in a high end italian pizza place, or eating pineappe on your pizza. They all signal that you don’t belong to some group because you don’t behave according to some arbitrary norms the group made up for this very purpose. 1: funnily the word itself acts as one. There is of course the biblical story where soldiers where able to tell undercover enemies apart from the general population based on how they pronounced the word shibolleth. But also the fact that someone knows this story can signify that someone is “cultured”, or at least classically read or whatever. (Or as is the case with me had the pleasure of integrating with the authentication system of the same name.)
- bolasanibk 4y ago
  > But also the fact that someone knows this story can signify that someone is “cultured”, or at least classically read or whatever. Or in my case, watched “West Wing”. :)
- tremon 4y ago
  They all signal that you don’t belong to some group because you don’t behave according to some arbitrary norms the group made up for this very purpose. Indeed, and we all do it. vi-vs-emacs or tabs-vs-spaces (or bsd-vs-linux, apple-vs-microsoft) aren't any less arbitrary than the other groups you mentioned.
ch4s3 4y ago
Bigger heavy reds that were very popular in the not distant past compete with rather than complementing the flavor of the fish. But, do you and have a big chewy red with you fish if you like that.
naasking 4y ago
> What is the stigma about pairing dry red wine with salmon? Two flavours can coexist, they can complement, or they can conflict. Generally speaking, red wine conflicts with fish dishes (exceptions to every rule of course). It's a whole thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_and_food_pairing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_and_food_pairing

Ohh you wouldn't understand... /s

Typically white wine is paired with fish, which is very lean and delicate of flavor. (Caveat: salmon, swordfish, tuna, etc. are somewhat oddballs due to their unique flavor profiles) Some would say a dry red wine with grilled salmon is like highlighting with a black sharpie. But, as parent said, if those are flavors you like... it's your tongue you're trying to please, mate! Same reason I gave people zero pushback at ice in wine at weddings. It's 90+ F (32+ C) outside! Do what makes you most happy.

FredPret 4y ago

White meat - white wine, red meat - red wine… says the rule

krisoft 4y ago

Small picture is that white wines are supposed to pair up better with fish, and chicken while red wines go with red meats. The big picture is that this is a shibboleth[1]. Humans, or some humans, seems to delight in finding ways to define the in-group and the out-group. Signs marking you as an outsider can be anything. Where i have grown up wearing the wrong kind of shoelaces in your boots meant that you are not a “real” rocker but a wannabe. Listening to the “wrong” bands, or listening to the right bands “wrong” can be a similar signifyer. Or wearing socks with your sandal, or asking for ketchup in a high end italian pizza place, or eating pineappe on your pizza. They all signal that you don’t belong to some group because you don’t behave according to some arbitrary norms the group made up for this very purpose. 1: funnily the word itself acts as one. There is of course the biblical story where soldiers where able to tell undercover enemies apart from the general population based on how they pronounced the word shibolleth. But also the fact that someone knows this story can signify that someone is “cultured”, or at least classically read or whatever. (Or as is the case with me had the pleasure of integrating with the authentication system of the same name.)

bolasanibk 4y ago
> But also the fact that someone knows this story can signify that someone is “cultured”, or at least classically read or whatever. Or in my case, watched “West Wing”. :)
tremon 4y ago
They all signal that you don’t belong to some group because you don’t behave according to some arbitrary norms the group made up for this very purpose. Indeed, and we all do it. vi-vs-emacs or tabs-vs-spaces (or bsd-vs-linux, apple-vs-microsoft) aren't any less arbitrary than the other groups you mentioned.

ch4s3 4y ago

Bigger heavy reds that were very popular in the not distant past compete with rather than complementing the flavor of the fish. But, do you and have a big chewy red with you fish if you like that.

naasking 4y ago

> What is the stigma about pairing dry red wine with salmon? Two flavours can coexist, they can complement, or they can conflict. Generally speaking, red wine conflicts with fish dishes (exceptions to every rule of course). It's a whole thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_and_food_pairing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_and_food_pairing