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> Our European visitors are important to us. Apparently we’re so important that "this site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area

by hk__2 4y ago

> Our European visitors are important to us. Apparently we’re so important that "this site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area". Is there some way to read it anyway?

desindol 4y ago
https://12ft.io/https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/southeast/miami-homeless-island-virginia-key/ https://12ft.io/https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/southe...
unreal37 4y ago
Well GDPR was the real cause of it. American companies want to track you by default. Safer just to block you than risk some weird "this cookie is on my system when I said no" lawsuit.
- Eduard 4y ago
  No, GDPR is not the real cause of it. Wrong interpretations of GDPR are rather the cause of it.
  - imglorp 4y ago
    That, sure, but also maybe it's also the thinking that advertisers aren't targeting foreign customers anyway, so why pay to serve non-targeted users who might annoy with legal issues?
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    That may be true, but even if true, there’s still a risk-vs-reward tradeoff at play here. “What do I expect to benefit from serving EU-based people vs what is my cost/risk in serving them?” Some sites have determined that ratio is out of whack.
  - davidmurdoch 4y ago
    I mean... The law is riddled with words like "reasonable", "likely", and "what's possible". No one knows the answers to these until a judge tells them, and it applies on a case by case basis. Server logs that store an IP address could be a problem. Want to estimate where you're traffic is coming from in the world? Well that may be considered data derived from PII. Want to try to do some due diligence by salted+hash user ip addresses for DAU analysis or security reasons? Probably can't. Maybe? Why? Because salted and hashed IP addresses can be reversed. The spirit of the law is great. The actual law sucks and the Internet is a much worse place for it.

by hk__2 4y ago

desindol 4y ago

https://12ft.io/https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/southeast/miami-homeless-island-virginia-key/ https://12ft.io/https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/southe...

unreal37 4y ago

Well GDPR was the real cause of it. American companies want to track you by default. Safer just to block you than risk some weird "this cookie is on my system when I said no" lawsuit.

Eduard 4y ago
No, GDPR is not the real cause of it. Wrong interpretations of GDPR are rather the cause of it.
- imglorp 4y ago
  That, sure, but also maybe it's also the thinking that advertisers aren't targeting foreign customers anyway, so why pay to serve non-targeted users who might annoy with legal issues?
- sokoloff 4y ago
  That may be true, but even if true, there’s still a risk-vs-reward tradeoff at play here. “What do I expect to benefit from serving EU-based people vs what is my cost/risk in serving them?” Some sites have determined that ratio is out of whack.
- davidmurdoch 4y ago
  I mean... The law is riddled with words like "reasonable", "likely", and "what's possible". No one knows the answers to these until a judge tells them, and it applies on a case by case basis. Server logs that store an IP address could be a problem. Want to estimate where you're traffic is coming from in the world? Well that may be considered data derived from PII. Want to try to do some due diligence by salted+hash user ip addresses for DAU analysis or security reasons? Probably can't. Maybe? Why? Because salted and hashed IP addresses can be reversed. The spirit of the law is great. The actual law sucks and the Internet is a much worse place for it.