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San Marino is one of the most beautiful places in Europe. Forget about the article and google yourself some pictures taken from San Marino. For some special ne

San Marino is one of the most beautiful places in Europe. Forget about the article and google yourself some pictures taken from San Marino. For some special nerd bonus, have a look at the Cosplay/Comic Conference: https://www.sanmarinocomics.com/ https://www.sanmarinocomics.com/ This fair is held in the San Marino castle and this is one of the most intriguing atmospheres I have every experienced, whether you like Cosplay or not. I accidentally ran into the event a couple of years ago. Another bonus tip: San Marino is near Rimini as well as Venice. Party and culture meet again.

fsckboy 4y ago
> San Marino is one of the most beautiful places in Europe. there are a lot of beautiful places in Europe, it's a high bar, are you sure San Marino is the pinnacle? > Forget about the article and google yourself some pictures taken from San Marino. the article is saying something quite unique about a facet of San Marino that is interesting, and you're claiming that the pictures of San Marino are more important than that? I dunno, not picking on you, but I wish HN could digest posts in the spirit in which they're offered up, instead of always switching to some narrow parochial view that is orthogonal, or diametrically oppposed,essentially saying "don't post what you're saying, post what we already know, it's better."
- wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago
  Isn't that exactly what your doing in this comment?
  - fsckboy 4y ago
    isn't what i'm exactly doing, I have no idea what you are talking about? I was critiquing a comment that said "completely ignore what this post says". If you don't like what a post says, then skip it and don't comment. Saying "this historically important place on a geopolitical basis is very pretty, so forget the geopolitical aspects and just look at pictures of it" I think is a weak and worthless thing to say. I'm not sure what you disagree with. Yes, I understand snowflakes not only don't like to be criticized, they can't stand to see somebody else criticized either. But where I stand, ignoring the substance of what somebody says and directing attention to something insubtantial is MORE DISPRESPECTFUL than saying to somebody's face "I don't like what you just said."
    - ztrww 4y ago
      > this historically important place on a geopolitical It’s not really that important, though. Never was, which might be the main reason it is the “world’s oldest republic”.
      - fsckboy 4y ago
        so, you're saying, OP shouldn't have posted this interesting piece of history, but rather people should look at pretty pictures of San Marino? Gotta say that's pretty vapid. every place in Europe or one of its colonies which at some time took steps to break out of the traditional dynastic power structures was contributing to the advance of Western political philosophy and thought. But oooh, look at the pretty pictures!
        mdp2021 4y ago
        "So-called practitioners of Analytical Philosophy are so busy continuously cleaning their glasses that they never wear them." "The culinary creation on the dish was such a structural marvel of meanings that I refrained from eating it." ...Calls to experience. (The poster never said that the article should not have been submitted. On the contrary, the poster "doubled down".)
        yywwbbn 4y ago
        Is there some reason you think most people would be incapable of both reading the article and looking at the “pretty” pictures? > every place in Europe … which took steps to break out of the traditional dynastic power structures was contributing to the advance of Western political philosophy and thought That is debatable and not all obvious. Care to somehow substantiate this claim?
    - mdp2021 4y ago
      You seem to have difficulties in understanding rhetoric: the spirit of the original post is clearly: "do not forget to get some direct enjoyment - it's worth it". Which again is not literal, so either you try and exercise some "understanding as approaching", or you will systematically miss in communication. To some cultures enjoyment is paramount. It enriches you. It is nourishment. The mandate towards the "«strongest plausible interpretation»" is in the guidelines: it comes implicitly with the exercise of communication, here it comes with a clause for heightened awareness. Edit: more plainly: make sure (as a very general rule) you understood posts before reacting - and in case of doubt, ask.
vault 4y ago
> San Marino is one of the most beautiful places in Europe. a tad overstated :) > San Marino is near Rimini as well as Venice San Marino is near Rimini, but NOT near Venice!
SeanLuke 4y ago
San Marino is "near" to Venice in the sense that Baltimore is "near" to New York. It's a fun place to visit, and its towers are striking, but I'd hardly call it the most beautiful place in the world: it is largely a kitchy land of tourist traps, factory outlets, and the "Museum of Torture".
- gaadd33 4y ago
  Is that true for the entire country? The article seemed to imply that is how the historic town is and it's almost by design, so the rest of the country doesn't have that. I guess that stuff has spread everywhere in the interim?
  - SeanLuke 4y ago
    There's a little bit of cute countryside on the back side of the mountain, but otherwise, yes, it's true for the entire country. Look, San Marino is barely 4 miles across.
    - gaadd33 4y ago
      Manhattan is only 3 miles across and you can find tons of stores and places that aren't just tourist tchotchkes. It sounds like it's wose than Andorra which from most descriptions is a giant parking lot with lots of duty free shopping.

fsckboy 4y ago

> San Marino is one of the most beautiful places in Europe. there are a lot of beautiful places in Europe, it's a high bar, are you sure San Marino is the pinnacle? > Forget about the article and google yourself some pictures taken from San Marino. the article is saying something quite unique about a facet of San Marino that is interesting, and you're claiming that the pictures of San Marino are more important than that? I dunno, not picking on you, but I wish HN could digest posts in the spirit in which they're offered up, instead of always switching to some narrow parochial view that is orthogonal, or diametrically oppposed,essentially saying "don't post what you're saying, post what we already know, it's better."

wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago
Isn't that exactly what your doing in this comment?
- fsckboy 4y ago
  isn't what i'm exactly doing, I have no idea what you are talking about? I was critiquing a comment that said "completely ignore what this post says". If you don't like what a post says, then skip it and don't comment. Saying "this historically important place on a geopolitical basis is very pretty, so forget the geopolitical aspects and just look at pictures of it" I think is a weak and worthless thing to say. I'm not sure what you disagree with. Yes, I understand snowflakes not only don't like to be criticized, they can't stand to see somebody else criticized either. But where I stand, ignoring the substance of what somebody says and directing attention to something insubtantial is MORE DISPRESPECTFUL than saying to somebody's face "I don't like what you just said."
  - ztrww 4y ago
    > this historically important place on a geopolitical It’s not really that important, though. Never was, which might be the main reason it is the “world’s oldest republic”.
    - fsckboy 4y ago
      so, you're saying, OP shouldn't have posted this interesting piece of history, but rather people should look at pretty pictures of San Marino? Gotta say that's pretty vapid. every place in Europe or one of its colonies which at some time took steps to break out of the traditional dynastic power structures was contributing to the advance of Western political philosophy and thought. But oooh, look at the pretty pictures!
      - mdp2021 4y ago
        "So-called practitioners of Analytical Philosophy are so busy continuously cleaning their glasses that they never wear them." "The culinary creation on the dish was such a structural marvel of meanings that I refrained from eating it." ...Calls to experience. (The poster never said that the article should not have been submitted. On the contrary, the poster "doubled down".)
      - yywwbbn 4y ago
        Is there some reason you think most people would be incapable of both reading the article and looking at the “pretty” pictures? > every place in Europe … which took steps to break out of the traditional dynastic power structures was contributing to the advance of Western political philosophy and thought That is debatable and not all obvious. Care to somehow substantiate this claim?
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    You seem to have difficulties in understanding rhetoric: the spirit of the original post is clearly: "do not forget to get some direct enjoyment - it's worth it". Which again is not literal, so either you try and exercise some "understanding as approaching", or you will systematically miss in communication. To some cultures enjoyment is paramount. It enriches you. It is nourishment. The mandate towards the "«strongest plausible interpretation»" is in the guidelines: it comes implicitly with the exercise of communication, here it comes with a clause for heightened awareness. Edit: more plainly: make sure (as a very general rule) you understood posts before reacting - and in case of doubt, ask.

vault 4y ago

> San Marino is one of the most beautiful places in Europe. a tad overstated :) > San Marino is near Rimini as well as Venice San Marino is near Rimini, but NOT near Venice!

SeanLuke 4y ago

San Marino is "near" to Venice in the sense that Baltimore is "near" to New York. It's a fun place to visit, and its towers are striking, but I'd hardly call it the most beautiful place in the world: it is largely a kitchy land of tourist traps, factory outlets, and the "Museum of Torture".

gaadd33 4y ago
Is that true for the entire country? The article seemed to imply that is how the historic town is and it's almost by design, so the rest of the country doesn't have that. I guess that stuff has spread everywhere in the interim?
- SeanLuke 4y ago
  There's a little bit of cute countryside on the back side of the mountain, but otherwise, yes, it's true for the entire country. Look, San Marino is barely 4 miles across.
  - gaadd33 4y ago
    Manhattan is only 3 miles across and you can find tons of stores and places that aren't just tourist tchotchkes. It sounds like it's wose than Andorra which from most descriptions is a giant parking lot with lots of duty free shopping.