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Yes, this is a poor and politically charged article; we don't have to read far to get to a beautiful application of Godwin's law: > Tim Stainton, director of t
by bambax 4y ago
Yes, this is a poor and politically charged article; we don't have to read far to get to a beautiful application of Godwin's law:
> Tim Stainton, director of the Canadian Institute for Inclusion and Citizenship at the University of British Columbia, described Canada’s law as “probably the biggest existential threat to disabled people since the Nazis’ program in Germany in the 1930s.”
Euthanasia and assisted suicide is not murder. It's helping people who feel they don't have any other option.
- bolangi 4y agoWhat do you call assisted suicide that is not assented to by the subject?
- oleander73 4y agoA contradictio in terminis.
- bambax 4y agoAn impossibility. If there is no consent there is no "suicide", assisted or otherwise.
- ben_w 4y agoThe term for what is done to pets and research animals is "euthanasia" — is that consensual? Or even "assented" or "acquiesced" to, if you want to side-step the question of how informed one has to be for it to count as "consent".
- mberger 4y agoPets are not people and cannot consent. Euthanasia is not assisted dying. There is no 'assistance' when one party doesn't share the goal. Straw man.
- ben_w 4y agoThe previous comments, the link text, the article on the other side of the link, and the Canadian members of parliament debating this law all used the term “euthanasia”, so no, it is not a straw man.
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- pavlov5867 4y agoAny reference to Nazis is not in itself an example of Godwins law. This is a discussion about state-run eugenics programs, so the reference isn't fallacious. Even Reductio ad Hitlerum acknowledges this[1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
- pyuser583 4y agoA nitpick: The Nazi “mandatory euthanasia” program began in December 1939, and continued until 1945. The first facility dedicated to killing the disabled opened in February 1940. So it was the 1940s, not 1930s.