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The usual Samsung bloatware is a deal breaker. I don't care how good the camera is.

by ravenstine 4y ago

algoatecorn 4y ago
What do you use instead?
- gerdesj 4y ago
  ... who do you work for
- Lev1a 4y ago
  Not OP, but I personally had a Samsung tablet before which made me want to never have any Samsung Android device again. Since then it's been Motorola phones all the way (essentially unmodified Android OS), affordable, no bloatware etc. edit: grammar
- snarfy 4y ago
  I have a OnePlus 8 and it's been OK. Not the greatest but infinitely better than Samsung's crapware infested S20 I had before.
- he_is_legend 4y ago
  > Android One is a family of third-party Android smartphones promoted by Google. In comparison to many third-party Android devices, which ship with a manufacturer's customized user interface and bundled apps, these devices run near-stock versions of Android with limited modifications, and a focus on Google services (although they may still feature software enhancements to support the features of included hardware, such as cameras) See https://www.android.com/one/ https://www.android.com/one/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One
Aachen 4y ago
The extras is one of the main reasons I like using a Samsung device. They're nearly as good as my Huawei was (but you can't root those anymore so they're not a purchasing option, regardless of google play restrictions which you can easily work around). The AI hardware button Samsung added is rather dumb but otherwise the extras don't get in the way and I sorely miss them whenever I use a bare android (a large downside for Fairphone or Lineageos or grapheneos: can't even turn on a torch from the lockscreen! Let alone set a timer. And their camera apps are objectively unusable compared to ss/hw/goog stock cameras). Loved Cyanogenmod 4.4; very disappointed by Lineage which doesn't even come with microG which is so stable and mature these days, you need to download some sort of fork for that and then you're still missing a ton of things that worked fine on stock. Thousands of nifty customizations were made by the community to mod every aspect of Android, but approximately none survive two major android versions so there's barely anything useful that still works on Android 10 or whatever version they're at by now. This is why I root a phone straight out of the box and apply various privacy enhancements, but unfortunately can't flash a completely open source OS...

The usual Samsung bloatware is a deal breaker. I don't care how good the camera is.

algoatecorn 4y ago

What do you use instead?

gerdesj 4y ago
... who do you work for
Lev1a 4y ago
Not OP, but I personally had a Samsung tablet before which made me want to never have any Samsung Android device again. Since then it's been Motorola phones all the way (essentially unmodified Android OS), affordable, no bloatware etc. edit: grammar
snarfy 4y ago
I have a OnePlus 8 and it's been OK. Not the greatest but infinitely better than Samsung's crapware infested S20 I had before.
he_is_legend 4y ago
> Android One is a family of third-party Android smartphones promoted by Google. In comparison to many third-party Android devices, which ship with a manufacturer's customized user interface and bundled apps, these devices run near-stock versions of Android with limited modifications, and a focus on Google services (although they may still feature software enhancements to support the features of included hardware, such as cameras) See https://www.android.com/one/ https://www.android.com/one/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One

Aachen 4y ago

The extras is one of the main reasons I like using a Samsung device. They're nearly as good as my Huawei was (but you can't root those anymore so they're not a purchasing option, regardless of google play restrictions which you can easily work around). The AI hardware button Samsung added is rather dumb but otherwise the extras don't get in the way and I sorely miss them whenever I use a bare android (a large downside for Fairphone or Lineageos or grapheneos: can't even turn on a torch from the lockscreen! Let alone set a timer. And their camera apps are objectively unusable compared to ss/hw/goog stock cameras). Loved Cyanogenmod 4.4; very disappointed by Lineage which doesn't even come with microG which is so stable and mature these days, you need to download some sort of fork for that and then you're still missing a ton of things that worked fine on stock. Thousands of nifty customizations were made by the community to mod every aspect of Android, but approximately none survive two major android versions so there's barely anything useful that still works on Android 10 or whatever version they're at by now. This is why I root a phone straight out of the box and apply various privacy enhancements, but unfortunately can't flash a completely open source OS...