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Funny little idea. Not sure how much traction it’ll get :-) but the creator likes to fiddle with some cool nerdy things it seems [1]. Made me think it’d be inte

Funny little idea. Not sure how much traction it’ll get :-) but the creator likes to fiddle with some cool nerdy things it seems [1]. Made me think it’d be interesting to have an Instagram clone that downsamples the media and maybe makes it monochrome (or colors more monotone at least) and removes some of the most offensive ML smart rankings, just to have a more calmer less addictive media consumption site? [1]: https://bbenchoff.github.io/ https://bbenchoff.github.io/

ilikehurdles 4y ago
I love that his page forwards hn users to a tweet[1] that coincidentally accurately describes the content that still thrives on this site. [1]: https://mobile.twitter.com/violenceworks/status/1487125708639911940 https://mobile.twitter.com/violenceworks/status/148712570863...
- digitaLandscape 4y ago
- jabbany 4y ago
  The real shame is why the linked page even gets referral information at all (and why we cannot disable it on a browser)... I'd love to have a browser setting to just completely disable "Referer:" headers and blank out `document.referrer`. Like, clearly hosts can control referral information to high granularity (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referrer-Policy https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...) but why can't users... (actually apparently you can set this for Firefox)
  - ilikehurdles 4y ago
    I agree. I’m surprised Safari of all browsers doesn’t at least provide an option to obscure this.
  - snovv_crash 4y ago
    At least for cross-domain URLs. Within a domain I could understand context, back buttons etc being useful.
    - flas9sd 4y ago
      firefox has 'network.http.referer.XOriginPolicy' to send referer depending on domain 0 - no restrictions (default), 1 - base domain match, 2 - fqdn match
    - jabbany 4y ago
      Useful how? Within a domain/origin you can already track/control this stuff with a plethora of things: cookies, URL params, localStorage, JS access of history to implement fancy back behavior...
      - snovv_crash 4y ago
        Exactly, so it isn't a security/privacy leak, so there's no harm in leaving it on.
        jabbany 4y ago
        No, the other forms require sites to opt-in whereas this just sends the information whether the site wants/needs it or not. There is plenty of harm in just this fact alone, because tracking via the other methods is transparent: you know sites are doing internal tracking if you see them being used. With referral information sent by default you have no idea whether the site uses the information or just ignores it. Either way the important thing shouldn't be how much referral information should be sent (because clearly people disagree on that). Rather all browsers should let you customize this if you want to.
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- raverbashing 4y ago
  Well, he's not really wrong (there's still good content here of course, but I'm sure the tech-crypto-bros are the ones most likely to cause trouble on his site)
- mvdwoord 4y ago
  "So anyway, I updated my blog so all referrers from the orange website are redirected elsewhere. Because fuck those tech bros, and doubly fuck the mods for not just banning these fucks. They didn't ban them in the beginning, so now it's all full of crypto nazis." How is this site full of crypto nazis exactly? Like seriously dude, how does this "accurately" describe the content on hn?

ilikehurdles 4y ago

I love that his page forwards hn users to a tweet[1] that coincidentally accurately describes the content that still thrives on this site. [1]: https://mobile.twitter.com/violenceworks/status/1487125708639911940 https://mobile.twitter.com/violenceworks/status/148712570863...

digitaLandscape 4y ago
jabbany 4y ago
The real shame is why the linked page even gets referral information at all (and why we cannot disable it on a browser)... I'd love to have a browser setting to just completely disable "Referer:" headers and blank out `document.referrer`. Like, clearly hosts can control referral information to high granularity (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referrer-Policy https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...) but why can't users... (actually apparently you can set this for Firefox)
- ilikehurdles 4y ago
  I agree. I’m surprised Safari of all browsers doesn’t at least provide an option to obscure this.
- snovv_crash 4y ago
  At least for cross-domain URLs. Within a domain I could understand context, back buttons etc being useful.
  - flas9sd 4y ago
    firefox has 'network.http.referer.XOriginPolicy' to send referer depending on domain 0 - no restrictions (default), 1 - base domain match, 2 - fqdn match
  - jabbany 4y ago
    Useful how? Within a domain/origin you can already track/control this stuff with a plethora of things: cookies, URL params, localStorage, JS access of history to implement fancy back behavior...
    - snovv_crash 4y ago
      Exactly, so it isn't a security/privacy leak, so there's no harm in leaving it on.
      - jabbany 4y ago
        No, the other forms require sites to opt-in whereas this just sends the information whether the site wants/needs it or not. There is plenty of harm in just this fact alone, because tracking via the other methods is transparent: you know sites are doing internal tracking if you see them being used. With referral information sent by default you have no idea whether the site uses the information or just ignores it. Either way the important thing shouldn't be how much referral information should be sent (because clearly people disagree on that). Rather all browsers should let you customize this if you want to.
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raverbashing 4y ago
Well, he's not really wrong (there's still good content here of course, but I'm sure the tech-crypto-bros are the ones most likely to cause trouble on his site)
mvdwoord 4y ago
"So anyway, I updated my blog so all referrers from the orange website are redirected elsewhere. Because fuck those tech bros, and doubly fuck the mods for not just banning these fucks. They didn't ban them in the beginning, so now it's all full of crypto nazis." How is this site full of crypto nazis exactly? Like seriously dude, how does this "accurately" describe the content on hn?