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Most new macOS apps from Apple seem to be pretty awful and don't feel like an actual mac app. Home, TV, and Music have some really horrible ux/ui. Music is slig

Most new macOS apps from Apple seem to be pretty awful and don't feel like an actual mac app. Home, TV, and Music have some really horrible ux/ui. Music is slightly better than the others but you would think they would have the resources to make these right. TV and Music are subscription-based in a way which seems like a no-brainer to add resources to make a proper app.

tmpz22 4y ago
Like most big tech companies I'm sure they find success metrics in every project they do. Especially the ones consumers hate.
- TakeBlaster16 4y ago
  Our telemetry says users are spending more time than ever before in the settings app. Engagement is up! Good work, team!
lelandfe 4y ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/nikitonsky/status/1557357661171204098 https://mobile.twitter.com/nikitonsky/status/155735766117120... This thread of UI issues with the Ventura System Settings really says it all. Most of this would have been shocking in a different era of Apple.
- CharlesW 4y ago
  For non-Mac users, Ventura is a forthcoming version of macOS which will be released this fall. Developers are reporting UX issues with beta releases now, and in my experience, many of them will be fixed by release. However, a System Preferences rethink is going to take multiple OS releases to get right.
  - deleted 4y ago
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- charlus 4y ago
  It’s a beta, this is not shocking in any era of Apple, just access and expectations have jumped ahead.
  - ProfessorLayton 4y ago
    Software bugs notwithstanding, the actual design choices made in the settings menu are baffling. Having items needlessly nested under modals/popups is a design choice and the complaints have little to do with the fact that the beta is buggy.
  - lelandfe 4y ago
    As a user of macOS betas for many, many years, this amount of visual issues this close to release date is pretty novel. I have little faith this will be addressed in the scant time left before a GM release
- rayiner 4y ago
  It’s really quite remarkable how something as simple as a settings app ends up showing the toolkit isn’t ready for prime time. The new windows settings app was also a disaster.
  - minedwiz 4y ago
    Settings seems like a good way to test out a Framework. You've got a lot of different areas to cover, with a mix of graphical content, text, buttons, menus, & dropdowns.
  - asplake 4y ago
    Stealing from Windows

tmpz22 4y ago

Like most big tech companies I'm sure they find success metrics in every project they do. Especially the ones consumers hate.

TakeBlaster16 4y ago
Our telemetry says users are spending more time than ever before in the settings app. Engagement is up! Good work, team!

lelandfe 4y ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/nikitonsky/status/1557357661171204098 https://mobile.twitter.com/nikitonsky/status/155735766117120... This thread of UI issues with the Ventura System Settings really says it all. Most of this would have been shocking in a different era of Apple.

CharlesW 4y ago
For non-Mac users, Ventura is a forthcoming version of macOS which will be released this fall. Developers are reporting UX issues with beta releases now, and in my experience, many of them will be fixed by release. However, a System Preferences rethink is going to take multiple OS releases to get right.
- deleted 4y ago
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charlus 4y ago
It’s a beta, this is not shocking in any era of Apple, just access and expectations have jumped ahead.
- ProfessorLayton 4y ago
  Software bugs notwithstanding, the actual design choices made in the settings menu are baffling. Having items needlessly nested under modals/popups is a design choice and the complaints have little to do with the fact that the beta is buggy.
- lelandfe 4y ago
  As a user of macOS betas for many, many years, this amount of visual issues this close to release date is pretty novel. I have little faith this will be addressed in the scant time left before a GM release
rayiner 4y ago
It’s really quite remarkable how something as simple as a settings app ends up showing the toolkit isn’t ready for prime time. The new windows settings app was also a disaster.
- minedwiz 4y ago
  Settings seems like a good way to test out a Framework. You've got a lot of different areas to cover, with a mix of graphical content, text, buttons, menus, & dropdowns.
- asplake 4y ago
  Stealing from Windows