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You're really getting caught up in semantics here. Your read on what democracy means is just leading you to talk past me. A democracy is a system of government

You're really getting caught up in semantics here. Your read on what democracy means is just leading you to talk past me. A democracy is a system of government where most adults can vote. That's it. A Constitutional Republic is a type of democracy. And the fact that we aren't a direct democracy doesn't change the fact that rights are not natural. Take anarchy. What rights do people have? None. Because there are no natural rights, only the legal ones we create for ourselves. In our system our rights stem from the will of the people. Not the hand of god. Nor the universe. If the people elect a government on the basis of granting or removing rights that's what the government will do.

phpisthebest 4y ago
it is not semantics, it is Philosophy and the foundation of ethics If there are no natural rights, then it would not be unethical for a government to infringe upon those rights, Thus says a China or North Korea or Russia are perfectly ethical governments because the government has choose their citizens do not have X rights and that is in their authority to do has a government. Instead the founding principle is "we hold these truths to be self evident" this is a foundational principle, and Philosophy of natural rights. Rights that no ethical government can violate even if the will of the people was to "agree" to the infringement. Authoritarianism is the belief that governments are the all powerful, and people are subservient to the government, and government bestowed up on the citizens their rights, I reject Authoritarianism completely and with out reservation Pointing out that government can be instituted that would infringe on natural rights is not proof that natural rights are non-existent
notch656a 4y ago
Anarchy means when you defend your rights, the people you're fighting against, or even alongside, don't have a legitimate monopoly on violence. To some that thought may be exhilarating, to others that may be terrifying.

phpisthebest 4y ago

it is not semantics, it is Philosophy and the foundation of ethics If there are no natural rights, then it would not be unethical for a government to infringe upon those rights, Thus says a China or North Korea or Russia are perfectly ethical governments because the government has choose their citizens do not have X rights and that is in their authority to do has a government. Instead the founding principle is "we hold these truths to be self evident" this is a foundational principle, and Philosophy of natural rights. Rights that no ethical government can violate even if the will of the people was to "agree" to the infringement. Authoritarianism is the belief that governments are the all powerful, and people are subservient to the government, and government bestowed up on the citizens their rights, I reject Authoritarianism completely and with out reservation Pointing out that government can be instituted that would infringe on natural rights is not proof that natural rights are non-existent

notch656a 4y ago

Anarchy means when you defend your rights, the people you're fighting against, or even alongside, don't have a legitimate monopoly on violence. To some that thought may be exhilarating, to others that may be terrifying.