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Settling that question was the entire discussion you butted into. I quoted an RFC from the late 90s that shows what meaning of "private" was originally intended

by anyfoo 4y ago

Settling that question was the entire discussion you butted into. I quoted an RFC from the late 90s that shows what meaning of "private" was originally intended, while you seem to a priori assume what "private" means here. > in the sense that it is used in Virtual Private Network, it means something else, namely not known or intended to be known publicly; secret. Great. Present some evidence or stop wasting time. My evidence that it actually does not mean that is RFC2547.

Maursault 4y ago
> My evidence that it actually does not mean that is RFC2547. RFC2547 does not support your claim... anywhere. I'll use Webster's definitions for my evidence. Also, every explanation of what VPN is everywhere on the Internet speaks of anonymity and privacy. This means the P in VPN could only mean free from public attention, secret and NOT for the use of a particular person or group, as in private parking.
- anyfoo 4y ago
  RFC2547 supports my claim that a VPN does not imply privacy. There is only one mention of "encryption", and it's called out as optional: A security-conscious VPN user might want to ensure that some or all of the packets which traverse the backbone are authenticated and/or encrypted. Webster's definition of a VPN is (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/VPN https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/VPN): a private computer network that functions over a public network A private network at the time was defined according to RFC1918. It also provides the motivation for private networks/the private IP address space, which was growth, not privacy/secrecy. It's a happy coincidence that you can sell a "Virtual Private Network" to endusers as a privacy-enhancing machination, given that it already contains the word "Private", even if that was meant as in private parking space, not private conversation.
  - Maursault 4y ago
    You've turned me around. I am convinced. Well done.

by anyfoo 4y ago

Maursault 4y ago

> My evidence that it actually does not mean that is RFC2547. RFC2547 does not support your claim... anywhere. I'll use Webster's definitions for my evidence. Also, every explanation of what VPN is everywhere on the Internet speaks of anonymity and privacy. This means the P in VPN could only mean free from public attention, secret and NOT for the use of a particular person or group, as in private parking.

anyfoo 4y ago
RFC2547 supports my claim that a VPN does not imply privacy. There is only one mention of "encryption", and it's called out as optional: A security-conscious VPN user might want to ensure that some or all of the packets which traverse the backbone are authenticated and/or encrypted. Webster's definition of a VPN is (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/VPN https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/VPN): a private computer network that functions over a public network A private network at the time was defined according to RFC1918. It also provides the motivation for private networks/the private IP address space, which was growth, not privacy/secrecy. It's a happy coincidence that you can sell a "Virtual Private Network" to endusers as a privacy-enhancing machination, given that it already contains the word "Private", even if that was meant as in private parking space, not private conversation.
- Maursault 4y ago
  You've turned me around. I am convinced. Well done.