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640by480: Instagram Clone for Vintage Digital Cameras
- lucasgonze 4y agoI'm curious what a vintage digital camera is.
- zimpenfish 4y agoI've got a Casio QV-10A[1] somewhere that almost certainly counts? Can't beat the constant fear that you could brick it if the batteries ran out at the wrong time. [1] https://cameralegend.com/tag/qv-10a/ https://cameralegend.com/tag/qv-10a/
- loloquwowndueo 4y agohttps://www.vintagedigitalcameras.com/ https://www.vintagedigitalcameras.com/ I remember a Kodak dc210 whose main feature was 1 megapixel resolution, meaning one could get a 4x6” print that wouldn’t look pixelated. It had zero control (no aperture/shutter speed settings and only crappy slow fixed focus) and took ages to take a picture, meaning it was unusable for moving subject photography. It was still better than other cameras of the time which only achieved vga resolution.
- artiii 4y agowhat about sony mavica fd5 where images is saved on floppy 3'5
- mulmen 4y agoI still have one of those! It has a floppy drive but also supports the Memory Stick.
- derwiki 4y agoMy earliest surviving digital photos were from this camera. Made a satisfying sound when it wrote to disk, too.
- mjhagen 4y agoMine too, I just posted one to the site, it shot them at 800x600 though :)
- sgerenser 4y agoApple QuickTake 100! I remember using it in 8th grade and was pretty amazed with its 640x480 goodness when the alternative was waiting a week to finish a roll of film, drop it off at the grocery store photo counter, and pick it up the next day or two (no way would my parents pay the extra $2 surcharge for 1 hour processing).
- abimaelmartell 4y agoi was thinking of the gameboy camera module
- daniel_iversen 4y agoFunny little idea. Not sure how much traction it’ll get :-) but the creator likes to fiddle with some cool nerdy things it seems [1]. Made me think it’d be interesting to have an Instagram clone that downsamples the media and maybe makes it monochrome (or colors more monotone at least) and removes some of the most offensive ML smart rankings, just to have a more calmer less addictive media consumption site? [1]: https://bbenchoff.github.io/ https://bbenchoff.github.io/
- ilikehurdles 4y agoI love that his page forwards hn users to a tweet[1] that coincidentally accurately describes the content that still thrives on this site. [1]: https://mobile.twitter.com/violenceworks/status/1487125708639911940 https://mobile.twitter.com/violenceworks/status/148712570863...
- digitaLandscape 4y ago
- jabbany 4y agoThe real shame is why the linked page even gets referral information at all (and why we cannot disable it on a browser)... I'd love to have a browser setting to just completely disable "Referer:" headers and blank out `document.referrer`. Like, clearly hosts can control referral information to high granularity (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referrer-Policy https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...) but why can't users... (actually apparently you can set this for Firefox)
- ilikehurdles 4y agoI agree. I’m surprised Safari of all browsers doesn’t at least provide an option to obscure this.
- snovv_crash 4y agoAt least for cross-domain URLs. Within a domain I could understand context, back buttons etc being useful.
- RIMR 4y agoI think the front page might be a little too exploitable from the looks of it right now (currently plastered with The Thing).
- mike_hock 4y ago> 640x480 Just like God told him it has to be.
- dmitrybrant 4y agoNeeds to be 16-colors though, with that distinctive dithering effect.
- jbverschoor 4y agoHow is this anything like an instagram clone at any point in time?
- rmsaksida 4y agoIt's a website where you can upload and browse pictures. Like Instagram.
- egello 4y agoIt looks like you can upload larger images and it does not crop nor resize them.
- Retr0id 4y agoThe real instagram feels like it compresses images down to below 640x480, so this is definitely an improvement.
- quickthrower2 4y agoIf the site owner is here, you might want to take off the "width: 50%;" on the container. This makes it centre properly on narrower widths. Consider using a css grid instead of a table too.
- jabbany 4y agoAh the good* old days of table layouts! Had a whole book about how to achieve all kinds of page layouts using tables pre the CSS3 days. *: Not actually good.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoHN is a table layout.
- quickthrower2 4y agoIt does. What I like about HN is they are very conservative about making changes. They have done some work in the past to make it more mobile friendly, but clearly they kept the table layout. The upside to this is the familiarity - which is something I love. I am not keen on redesigns unless the original design was really really bad. If I am even using your thing, it isn't that bad! Too many companies redesign their sites, for almost no advantage to the user. This also applies to all software. For example look at Windows. Horrendous multiple levels of dialog style and behavior of various vintages. This leads to very hard discoverability in Win11. Ubuntu is so much nicer and hasn't changed much over the years from what I can tell. The "old frowned upon thing" + "familiarity" can trump "keeping up with so called best practice" + "great I have to relearn this thing I was familiar with".
- brink 4y ago> Consider using a css grid instead of a table too. That would not be vintage.
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- the_doctah 4y agoWhy does the front page give off a creepy vibe?
- prawn 4y agoOn mobile it looks like a captcha where you identify buses or stoplights.
- ungamedplayer 4y ago
- prox 4y agoMaybe I can start a business just making vintage HTML+CSS1 websites. Tables here I come!
- justsomehnguy 4y agoComplete with a top-down loading.
- loudandskittish 4y agoBrian Eno once said: "Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided." So, Instagram emulated cheap, plastic film cameras and now we've finally moved on to OG digital cameras...
- anthk 4y agoCD's had no distortion.
- WorkerBee28474 4y agoIIRC CDs were the first use of dithering in audio. It's not distortion, but both it and distortion change the signal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither
- DawsonBruce 4y agoWhile its true that dithering changes the original signal, dithering is a necessarily evil that prevents quantization errors as a result of downsampling 24-bit+ source material due to CDs being 16-bit. It’s a choice between some barely audible noise, or some weird spectral artifacts..
- ace2358 4y agoI was under the impression that the dithering level is well below our threshold for hearing. Can someone confirm or deny that?
- DawsonBruce 4y agoDithering modulates the least significant bit of the audio signal, so at normal listening levels it should be inaudible. Of course, one can amplify the silence by 120dB or so and hear the noise. Sources: http://www.dspguide.com/ch3/1.htm http://www.dspguide.com/ch3/1.htm https://www.bruce.audio/post/2022/05/26/dithering/ https://www.bruce.audio/post/2022/05/26/dithering/
- insane_dreamer 4y ago"640x480 ought to be enough for anybody" --Bill Gates (paraphrased)
- kube-system 4y agoLol my first digital camera was a Mavica and I don’t think I once was under any impression that the quality was better than my 35mm point and shoot. They were basically Polaroids for nerds. Nobody else took them seriously.
- derwiki 4y agoThey were fine for the generation of websites optimized for 800*600
- kube-system 4y agoThey were great for putting beanie babies on eBay. Not great for printing out on those early inkjets.
- rendaw 4y agoThis experience is distinctly "looking at a vintage website on a 2022 monitor".
- NackerHughes 4y agoThe only things missing are the diagonal pinstripe background, drop shadows & glass borders round the thumbnails, and glossy reflections & lens flare on the images.
- butz 4y agoDo your server a favor and add thumbnails for list view. There are some huge 2MB images slowing down loading.
- faloppad 4y agoWhat Flickr wants meant to be
- dicknuckle 4y agoOr 500px
- simonjgreen 4y ago"Vintage Digital Cameras" is a phrase that makes me feel old.