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> > This seems to be the mainstream opinion as well, > I don't agree with you. Unfortunately I'd have to agree with the original author here. People gest and

by rob_c2 4y ago

> > This seems to be the mainstream opinion as well, > I don't agree with you. Unfortunately I'd have to agree with the original author here. People gest and make empty vacuous statements on social media _a lot_. People are also unwilling to change or take on a small amount of responsibility. These 2 things are in direct conflict. Again my strongest condemnation of this is people only now care about power and fuel efficiency at a large level now that Putin has caused the price to rise. Putin by his actions in the last few months has done more to sway public ACTION here than 30 years of social media posts and politicians. This is a damning sad statement on how much people honestly care about impacting change in the world.

random314 4y ago
Climate change can not be solved by individual action. It's a ridiculous idea to propose this in the first place. Governments are supposed to solve Tragedy of the Commons through regulation. The Common who takes it on himself will lose everything to gain nothing. government intervention such ad carbon tax and EV subsidies and actions like the green new deal are what is needed.
- rob_c 4y ago
  > Climate change can not be solved by individual action. It's a ridiculous idea to propose this in the first place. I... No Again please stop focusing on what I'm not saying. And btw there are huge environmental impacts that can be made that build up from bet actions of individuals and societal change. Ignoring that is frankly inconsistent or dishonest. It's a different scale to Chinas industrial pollution but I'm bout even talking about that. Again I'm talking about the way people have these things explained and educated. When I mention the education here is damaged and being self defeatist I get 4 or 5 people explaining how climate policy does or should work show exactly how people "think good". Again I'm saying you misrepresent something that will go on for years and people will remember you as a liar even if you were exaggerating a truth. Exactly because that's what lying is.
  - random314 4y ago

by rob_c2 4y ago

random314 4y ago

Climate change can not be solved by individual action. It's a ridiculous idea to propose this in the first place. Governments are supposed to solve Tragedy of the Commons through regulation. The Common who takes it on himself will lose everything to gain nothing. government intervention such ad carbon tax and EV subsidies and actions like the green new deal are what is needed.

rob_c 4y ago
> Climate change can not be solved by individual action. It's a ridiculous idea to propose this in the first place. I... No Again please stop focusing on what I'm not saying. And btw there are huge environmental impacts that can be made that build up from bet actions of individuals and societal change. Ignoring that is frankly inconsistent or dishonest. It's a different scale to Chinas industrial pollution but I'm bout even talking about that. Again I'm talking about the way people have these things explained and educated. When I mention the education here is damaged and being self defeatist I get 4 or 5 people explaining how climate policy does or should work show exactly how people "think good". Again I'm saying you misrepresent something that will go on for years and people will remember you as a liar even if you were exaggerating a truth. Exactly because that's what lying is.
- random314 4y ago