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The FBI was investigating a Republican for context. The FBI has always selectively targeted politicians going back to J Edgar Hoover, and the entire organizati

The FBI was investigating a Republican for context. The FBI has always selectively targeted politicians going back to J Edgar Hoover, and the entire organization has political corruption in its founding and DNA.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> FBI has always selectively targeted politicians The FBI was founded to go after politicians. Add in prosecutorial discretion and such an organisation will always be charged with selective enforcement. One of their first cases was prosecuting a murderer of wealthy Indians in Oklahoma the locals ignored [1]. Yes, it has a troubled history. But I haven’t seen a great argument for what could replace it as our nation’s anti-corruption and major crimes force. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/books/review/killers-of-the-flower-moon-david-grann.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/books/review/killers-of-t...
- keneda7 4y ago
  The FBI and DOJ are currently settling a 1 billion dollar lawsuit over the fact that they knowingly allowed an Olympic coach to rape Olympic gymnasts (children). https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+being+sueing+for+1+billion https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+being+sueing+for+1+billi... A DOJ lawyer admitted to altering contents of an email to make it say the opposite of what it originally said. https://www.google.com/search?q=doj+lawyer+admits+to+altering+email https://www.google.com/search?q=doj+lawyer+admits+to+alterin... Recently 2 of the 4 defendants were acquitted and 2 were declared a mistrial because the FBI was shown to have played a key part in the actual planning. https://www.google.com/search?q=michigan+governor+kidnapping+case https://www.google.com/search?q=michigan+governor+kidnapping... Illegal spying on American citizens https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+illegally+spied+on+americans https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+illegally+spied+on+ameri... How has someone been convicted of trafficking children, yet the FBI and DOJ have not released any of the names or charged any of their clients? Everything else seem to leak out right away. There are plenty more examples. Take a look at some of the OIG reports that have come out in the last 10 years if you want a real in depth look. There is something wrong with our FBI and DOJ and it needs to be rooted out. I agree with you regarding the replacement but at the same time we cannot pretend its actual doing anti-corruption or major crimes work fairly. Both organizations selectively chooses who to go after based on the employees personal feelings. That is not okay. That is not justice.
- namelessoracle 4y ago
  If your position is that there is no way around politics due to selective enforcement then it sounds like it needs to be an elected position with its enumerated rights clearly spelled out that is accountable to the citizenry and not the people who appoint them. A kind of national sheriff if you will.
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blep_ 4y ago
But none of that is relevant if there is evidence that this specific person is innocent.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> FBI has always selectively targeted politicians The FBI was founded to go after politicians. Add in prosecutorial discretion and such an organisation will always be charged with selective enforcement. One of their first cases was prosecuting a murderer of wealthy Indians in Oklahoma the locals ignored [1]. Yes, it has a troubled history. But I haven’t seen a great argument for what could replace it as our nation’s anti-corruption and major crimes force. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/books/review/killers-of-the-flower-moon-david-grann.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/books/review/killers-of-t...

keneda7 4y ago
The FBI and DOJ are currently settling a 1 billion dollar lawsuit over the fact that they knowingly allowed an Olympic coach to rape Olympic gymnasts (children). https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+being+sueing+for+1+billion https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+being+sueing+for+1+billi... A DOJ lawyer admitted to altering contents of an email to make it say the opposite of what it originally said. https://www.google.com/search?q=doj+lawyer+admits+to+altering+email https://www.google.com/search?q=doj+lawyer+admits+to+alterin... Recently 2 of the 4 defendants were acquitted and 2 were declared a mistrial because the FBI was shown to have played a key part in the actual planning. https://www.google.com/search?q=michigan+governor+kidnapping+case https://www.google.com/search?q=michigan+governor+kidnapping... Illegal spying on American citizens https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+illegally+spied+on+americans https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+illegally+spied+on+ameri... How has someone been convicted of trafficking children, yet the FBI and DOJ have not released any of the names or charged any of their clients? Everything else seem to leak out right away. There are plenty more examples. Take a look at some of the OIG reports that have come out in the last 10 years if you want a real in depth look. There is something wrong with our FBI and DOJ and it needs to be rooted out. I agree with you regarding the replacement but at the same time we cannot pretend its actual doing anti-corruption or major crimes work fairly. Both organizations selectively chooses who to go after based on the employees personal feelings. That is not okay. That is not justice.
namelessoracle 4y ago
If your position is that there is no way around politics due to selective enforcement then it sounds like it needs to be an elected position with its enumerated rights clearly spelled out that is accountable to the citizenry and not the people who appoint them. A kind of national sheriff if you will.
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blep_ 4y ago

But none of that is relevant if there is evidence that this specific person is innocent.