3 ms·

"Can you source a link fort your actual claim that "Mariupol was held hostage."" What do you think happens when you put your military bases in the city and put

by gdy 4y ago

"Can you source a link fort your actual claim that "Mariupol was held hostage."" What do you think happens when you put your military bases in the city and put you forces in residential areas? "this report has been so panned and the backlash so strong" It doesn't make it wrong though, does it? Truth hurts. "its effectively just pro Russian propaganda." So you just dismiss any facts if they don't align with Western propaganda?

_kbh_ 4y ago
> What do you think happens when you put your military bases in the city and put you forces in residential areas? This sounds more like what the Russians are doing, but the Russians also commit genocide and force Ukrainians to fight for them via conscription in the Donbas Luhansk regions. > It doesn't make it wrong though, does it? Truth hurts. Just because someone writes something doesn't make it true thought? The backlash was harsh because the report was crazy and ignored a number of different people trying to provide feedback and context around what was happening. > So you just dismiss any facts if they don't align with Western propaganda? You have yet to establish them as facts, and id be more wary of Russian propaganda than anything else, its a good thing its become so transparent now.
- gdy 4y ago
  So what are you saying? That Mariupol was empty of Ukrainian forces and Russians just shelled it because... what? Or that Russians had entered undefended Mariupol and then Ukrainians shelled it? How do you explain that Mariupol suffered so much damage? "Just because someone" Amnesty isn't 'someone' and their previous reports condemning Russian actions were considered credible. "its a good thing its become so transparent now" If you define anything that doesn't align with Western propaganda as 'Russian propaganda' then, yes, it's very transparent and simple.

by gdy 4y ago

_kbh_ 4y ago

> What do you think happens when you put your military bases in the city and put you forces in residential areas? This sounds more like what the Russians are doing, but the Russians also commit genocide and force Ukrainians to fight for them via conscription in the Donbas Luhansk regions. > It doesn't make it wrong though, does it? Truth hurts. Just because someone writes something doesn't make it true thought? The backlash was harsh because the report was crazy and ignored a number of different people trying to provide feedback and context around what was happening. > So you just dismiss any facts if they don't align with Western propaganda? You have yet to establish them as facts, and id be more wary of Russian propaganda than anything else, its a good thing its become so transparent now.

gdy 4y ago
So what are you saying? That Mariupol was empty of Ukrainian forces and Russians just shelled it because... what? Or that Russians had entered undefended Mariupol and then Ukrainians shelled it? How do you explain that Mariupol suffered so much damage? "Just because someone" Amnesty isn't 'someone' and their previous reports condemning Russian actions were considered credible. "its a good thing its become so transparent now" If you define anything that doesn't align with Western propaganda as 'Russian propaganda' then, yes, it's very transparent and simple.