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To others reading this: Please do spend as much effort as humanly possible to move people away to ANYTHING other than whatsapp. Signal is great, but anything ot

To others reading this: Please do spend as much effort as humanly possible to move people away to ANYTHING other than whatsapp. Signal is great, but anything other than a property owned and operated by facebook will help weaken them, which is better for the entire earth.

Schroedingersat 4y ago
Moving to another walled guarden just gives them something else to acquire and signal is not immune to this. Xmpp, matrix, and sms are options.
crossroadsguy 4y ago
Both Signal and WhatsApp are walled gardens and having watched overlords who control these apps I might consider Zuck & Co to be more flexible if I must pick one. A lot of those people had actually installed Signal. I had convinced them. When things broke, features were missing I just couldn’t tell them what to do. Never again. But in the process of trying to bring them to Signal, I actually understood why my friends and family (many of them are from remote villages; educated or barely educated) prefer WhatsApp — because they “can actually use” WhatsApp and connect to others unlike anything else! You know how big that is? That trumps everything Sugnal has to offer and it doesn’t offer much to begin with. Element/Vector/Riot/or whatever they’ll name it next isn’t even in that league and it’s good it is not even trying to be an usable person to person individual chat app/service. Though I wish they used Telegram (yeah yeah, E2E is opt-in). It’s just too superior an app! Too good. But they don’t. So WhatsApp it is.
- Schroedingersat 4y ago
  I'm all aboard the moxie has some incredibly bad rationalizations every time signal adds another sketchy feature train, but what makes you say facebook is better? Also element works just fine, especially compared to the massive issues facebook messenger has had over the years.

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To others reading this: Please do spend as much effort as humanly possible to move people away to ANYTHING other than whatsapp. Signal is great, but anything ot

by RDaneel0livaw 4y ago

Schroedingersat 4y ago
Moving to another walled guarden just gives them something else to acquire and signal is not immune to this. Xmpp, matrix, and sms are options.
crossroadsguy 4y ago
Both Signal and WhatsApp are walled gardens and having watched overlords who control these apps I might consider Zuck & Co to be more flexible if I must pick one. A lot of those people had actually installed Signal. I had convinced them. When things broke, features were missing I just couldn’t tell them what to do. Never again. But in the process of trying to bring them to Signal, I actually understood why my friends and family (many of them are from remote villages; educated or barely educated) prefer WhatsApp — because they “can actually use” WhatsApp and connect to others unlike anything else! You know how big that is? That trumps everything Sugnal has to offer and it doesn’t offer much to begin with. Element/Vector/Riot/or whatever they’ll name it next isn’t even in that league and it’s good it is not even trying to be an usable person to person individual chat app/service. Though I wish they used Telegram (yeah yeah, E2E is opt-in). It’s just too superior an app! Too good. But they don’t. So WhatsApp it is.
- Schroedingersat 4y ago
  I'm all aboard the moxie has some incredibly bad rationalizations every time signal adds another sketchy feature train, but what makes you say facebook is better? Also element works just fine, especially compared to the massive issues facebook messenger has had over the years.