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And again a good example of American Puritanism where someone pass from the status of Hero to Paria as soon as someone discover he has flaws. Everybody is flaw
by adev_ 4y ago
And again a good example of American Puritanism where someone pass from the status of Hero to Paria as soon as someone discover he has flaws.
Everybody is flawed, damned everybody, including yourself.
And the most extraordinary people are, Often the less acceptable in term of social norms they are too.
- The Most brillant CEOs are often terrible family Dad and with psychological/narcissist problems.... Still they are giving people jobs and making the world a better place.
- Many Brillant scientists have asperger syndromes and are asociable nightmare for the people that work with.... Still brillant scientists that make the world a better place.
- Many authors have self-destructive syndromes and chronic depression affecting their close relative. Still they wrote amazing piece of art.
Same for actors, authors, philosophers, producers, political figures.. your neighbor, everybody.
Nobody is ever perfect even close to this fake perfect public image hero they try to create.
That apply to Dan Price too, whatever he did.
Maybe it is time to grow up America and accept the world as it is.
- JackFr 4y ago> That apply to Dan Price too, whatever he did. > Maybe it is time to grow up America and accept the world as it is. What does that mean? I think I understand your point - that people like to create hero-narratives that are mostly not true, and that at high levels of achievement some very successful people carry the seeds of their own destruction. Fair enough. But the Puritan America that you want to grow up is a straw man. And Dan Price is a effectively a nobody, who either assaulted someone or didn’t and as he’s been formally accused, it’s for the courts to adjudicate.
- adev_ 4y ago> Dan Price is a effectively a nobody Dan Price is not a nobody. He is a public figure, frequently in TV and media presented regularly as "The alternative CEO model that arrive to give to his workers excellent working conditions while having a successful and growing business". And yet, I can bet with you that whatever the judgement of the court will be, the American press will now (opportunistically) vomit on him for the rest of his days.
- Apocryphon 4y agoPlenty of publicly shamed and dishonored CEOs have come back from the brink, from Travis Kalanick to most spectacularly, recently, Adam Neumann. If Price is able to be found innocent by the courts, he would likely do so as well. He doesn’t need you weeping and clutching pearls on his behalf.
- brown9-2 4y agopretty weird to call rape a “flaw”
- matt-attack 4y agoPretty weird to call forcibly kissing someone “rape”. Pretty sure it’s something but it’s not rape.
- deezleguy 4y agoWhile I agree that forcibly kissing someone isn’t rape, in the NYT article posted somewhere in this chain he’s accused of penetration without consent.
- RestlessMind 4y agoAccused, not convicted. Should accusations be counted as flaws?
- deezleguy 4y agoNo they shouldn’t, nor do I think it should be legal to drag someone’s name through the mud before conviction. Regardless, the “flaws” this person was referring to were the accusations, and the accusations were of rape not forcible kissing.