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I'm an illustrator. I want to make some pin-up art and sell it. However A. I think it's kind of embarrassing B. It could absolutely never be associated with m

by boppo1 4y ago

I'm an illustrator. I want to make some pin-up art and sell it. However A. I think it's kind of embarrassing B. It could absolutely never be associated with my real name because it would torpedo my official career due to the current social climate. The only way I could think of to really keep identity separation in a way that doesn't leave me beholden to a third party was to use some sort of crypto mixer. I don't trust institutions not to leak data that could be used to establish an identity link. Do you think I'm evil?

Nursie 4y ago
I think you're likely overly paranoid, not evil. And I also think you probably ought to consider what else it is you're giving cover to by using a mixer, and not be surprised if the services you use get shut down with great prejudice.
- boppo1 4y ago
  >overly paranoid I disagree. My livelihood depends on said identity separation. I agree such a leak is very unlikely, but it could be life-changingly detrimental if it happened. Or it could raise public opinion of me, who knows? I believe in risk management. >consider what else it is you're giving cover to I can see it that way. But I mostly transact in the US dollar, and voluntarily live in the US. Do I therefore support the US goodbye-kiss dronestrike on an innocent Afghani family? IMO participating in a system of commerce does not necessarily confer the responsibilities of some participants onto others.
lupire 4y ago
Not evil, but a coward, by letting your community remain stigmatized by refusing to stand up for what you believe in.
jsmith45 4y ago
Question: how do you propose preventing other people from making copies of this art and selling it, without revealing your identity? If you want to use copyright to protect your work, and end up suing, remaining pseudonymous will be difficult. Courts will only sometimes allow an anonymous/pseudonymous complaint. Even when they do allow it, they may require that defendant be given access to your real name, even if it remains sealed from the public. Even if you are somehow successfully in remaining anonymous to the court, the defendant, and the public, you are only going to be able to do that via being represented by an attorney, who will most likely need to know your name, and the attorney’s identity will be public. (The attorney would likely need to know your real name for ethics reasons, like making sure they are not representing a defendant you are suing in some non-private lawsuit. ) But given you don’t trust institutions to not leak identity, I suppose you cannot trust the attorney to either.
- boppo1 4y ago
  I won't bother with copyright. It's already mostly impossible anyway. If you make illustrations these days you can't prevent their distribution. Only situation worth bothering with copyright is if a major company/high paid illustrator lifts your work, and even then it's tenuous (look up "sail lin call of duty floof"). The way to make money as an independent is to make distinct/unique content people can immediately recognize as yours and open up donations (patreon). You can also time gate access to new work to some extent. If there's a better model, I'm unaware. Copyright disproportionately protects large firms, not individual creators. There are exceptions, of course, but they are far from the norm. Hell, most big companies I've worked at have clauses that say I assign them all rights to all work I make while employed with them. Those are fun to deal with. Short of massive success, I would be better off as an illustrator if copyright were entirely dismantled. I trust attorneys on a case-by-case basis. So far the ones financially aligned with me have been swell.

by boppo1 4y ago

Nursie 4y ago

I think you're likely overly paranoid, not evil. And I also think you probably ought to consider what else it is you're giving cover to by using a mixer, and not be surprised if the services you use get shut down with great prejudice.

boppo1 4y ago
>overly paranoid I disagree. My livelihood depends on said identity separation. I agree such a leak is very unlikely, but it could be life-changingly detrimental if it happened. Or it could raise public opinion of me, who knows? I believe in risk management. >consider what else it is you're giving cover to I can see it that way. But I mostly transact in the US dollar, and voluntarily live in the US. Do I therefore support the US goodbye-kiss dronestrike on an innocent Afghani family? IMO participating in a system of commerce does not necessarily confer the responsibilities of some participants onto others.

lupire 4y ago

Not evil, but a coward, by letting your community remain stigmatized by refusing to stand up for what you believe in.

jsmith45 4y ago

Question: how do you propose preventing other people from making copies of this art and selling it, without revealing your identity? If you want to use copyright to protect your work, and end up suing, remaining pseudonymous will be difficult. Courts will only sometimes allow an anonymous/pseudonymous complaint. Even when they do allow it, they may require that defendant be given access to your real name, even if it remains sealed from the public. Even if you are somehow successfully in remaining anonymous to the court, the defendant, and the public, you are only going to be able to do that via being represented by an attorney, who will most likely need to know your name, and the attorney’s identity will be public. (The attorney would likely need to know your real name for ethics reasons, like making sure they are not representing a defendant you are suing in some non-private lawsuit. ) But given you don’t trust institutions to not leak identity, I suppose you cannot trust the attorney to either.

boppo1 4y ago
I won't bother with copyright. It's already mostly impossible anyway. If you make illustrations these days you can't prevent their distribution. Only situation worth bothering with copyright is if a major company/high paid illustrator lifts your work, and even then it's tenuous (look up "sail lin call of duty floof"). The way to make money as an independent is to make distinct/unique content people can immediately recognize as yours and open up donations (patreon). You can also time gate access to new work to some extent. If there's a better model, I'm unaware. Copyright disproportionately protects large firms, not individual creators. There are exceptions, of course, but they are far from the norm. Hell, most big companies I've worked at have clauses that say I assign them all rights to all work I make while employed with them. Those are fun to deal with. Short of massive success, I would be better off as an illustrator if copyright were entirely dismantled. I trust attorneys on a case-by-case basis. So far the ones financially aligned with me have been swell.