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i don't remember hopper being part of the story (although i've never been one for names). the story claimed it was the first ever computer bug. the fact that e

by a-dub 4y ago

i don't remember hopper being part of the story (although i've never been one for names). the story claimed it was the first ever computer bug. the fact that edison used to have to pick them out of telephone and telegraph equipment doesn't refute this for me, unless you want to make some claim that manually switched telephone/telegraph networks were actually computing something.

AlbertoGP 4y ago
> i don't remember hopper being part of the story (although i've never been one for names). You are right, I might have been mistaken in understanding her sentence “We finally located...”. I’ve added a note about it that at the end of my comment: > Edit 2: the comment by psychoslave links to the Wikipedia page without further context, and there it says that Hopper was not present when the moth was found: [...] > I haven’t been able to find any clear mention by Grace Hopper on whether she was there when the moth was found: in the video I linked at the top she might have said “They finally located” instead of “We finally located” as I heard. If she wasn’t there, then Lunduke’s article would be, AFAICT, completely correct. It is in any case way more correct than others I’ve read.
AlbertoGP 4y ago
> the story claimed it was the first ever computer bug. About this part, the comment by eesmith (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32518611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32518611) cites a page at Harvard University saying this: > “Before 1944, electrical engineers already used the term «bug» to refer to hard-to-find physical defects that hindered the operation of an electric device. The Mark I team appropriated the term for unexpected problems in the «coding» of a problem. Above are cartoons drawn by Grace Hopper of the different types of bugs encountered during her work.” > https://chsi.harvard.edu/harvard-ibm-mark-1-language https://chsi.harvard.edu/harvard-ibm-mark-1-language

by a-dub 4y ago

AlbertoGP 4y ago

> i don't remember hopper being part of the story (although i've never been one for names). You are right, I might have been mistaken in understanding her sentence “We finally located...”. I’ve added a note about it that at the end of my comment: > Edit 2: the comment by psychoslave links to the Wikipedia page without further context, and there it says that Hopper was not present when the moth was found: [...] > I haven’t been able to find any clear mention by Grace Hopper on whether she was there when the moth was found: in the video I linked at the top she might have said “They finally located” instead of “We finally located” as I heard. If she wasn’t there, then Lunduke’s article would be, AFAICT, completely correct. It is in any case way more correct than others I’ve read.

AlbertoGP 4y ago

> the story claimed it was the first ever computer bug. About this part, the comment by eesmith (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32518611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32518611) cites a page at Harvard University saying this: > “Before 1944, electrical engineers already used the term «bug» to refer to hard-to-find physical defects that hindered the operation of an electric device. The Mark I team appropriated the term for unexpected problems in the «coding» of a problem. Above are cartoons drawn by Grace Hopper of the different types of bugs encountered during her work.” > https://chsi.harvard.edu/harvard-ibm-mark-1-language https://chsi.harvard.edu/harvard-ibm-mark-1-language