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I was always under the impression that the GOP claimed the title "rule of law party" Also, your paraphrasing of her quote is uncharitable at best. I believe sh

I was always under the impression that the GOP claimed the title "rule of law party" Also, your paraphrasing of her quote is uncharitable at best. I believe she said “We are a free-market economy. [Congress] should be able to participate in that”

hayst4ck 4y ago
The GOP says "law and order" which has connotations of use of force to ensure order. "Law and order" tends to reference the idea of a dominance hierarchy, and that the authority of the dominance hierarchy is absolute. We saw "law and order" referenced frequently with BLM to put down protests because they were disorderly. "Law and order" means "might makes right." Those with might make the "laws" and enforce them to ensure order. "Rule of law" is a different concept which references a set of values codified as law which apply equally to everyone.
- salawat 4y ago
  You're making distinction without difference. Both GOP and Dems value "Law and Order" equally. The Rule of Law bit is far more squishily applied by both parties, however. The whole private prisons settling as cost of doing business, however, is one reason the LLC and the legal fiction of corporations as completely seperate from the people operating them was controversial in the first place, as it served as what could be used as a layer of protection from the Courts/Justice System.
- jrs235 4y ago
  Correct. I don't care much for law and order. I want orderly justice.
TomSwirly 4y ago
> “We are a free-market economy. [Congress] should be able to participate in that” No, you should NOT allowed to be trade on inside information that no one else has access to just because you are "important". No, you should particularly not be allowed to trade in securities that you are writing legislation on. All legislators should be obliged to put their investment assets into a blind trust, administered by a complete stranger that they aren't allowed to contact. If they won't do this, fine - there are plenty of people for which this would not be any sort of problem at all.

hayst4ck 4y ago

The GOP says "law and order" which has connotations of use of force to ensure order. "Law and order" tends to reference the idea of a dominance hierarchy, and that the authority of the dominance hierarchy is absolute. We saw "law and order" referenced frequently with BLM to put down protests because they were disorderly. "Law and order" means "might makes right." Those with might make the "laws" and enforce them to ensure order. "Rule of law" is a different concept which references a set of values codified as law which apply equally to everyone.

salawat 4y ago
You're making distinction without difference. Both GOP and Dems value "Law and Order" equally. The Rule of Law bit is far more squishily applied by both parties, however. The whole private prisons settling as cost of doing business, however, is one reason the LLC and the legal fiction of corporations as completely seperate from the people operating them was controversial in the first place, as it served as what could be used as a layer of protection from the Courts/Justice System.
jrs235 4y ago
Correct. I don't care much for law and order. I want orderly justice.

TomSwirly 4y ago

> “We are a free-market economy. [Congress] should be able to participate in that” No, you should NOT allowed to be trade on inside information that no one else has access to just because you are "important". No, you should particularly not be allowed to trade in securities that you are writing legislation on. All legislators should be obliged to put their investment assets into a blind trust, administered by a complete stranger that they aren't allowed to contact. If they won't do this, fine - there are plenty of people for which this would not be any sort of problem at all.