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The punishment should be more than a fine it should be jail. If you can pay for the consequences then there are no laws. Take away their freedom and make them l

The punishment should be more than a fine it should be jail. If you can pay for the consequences then there are no laws. Take away their freedom and make them lose time in their life.

chaps 4y ago
There is prison time. Arguably a small amount. Ciavarella, 72, is serving a 28-year prison sentence in Kentucky. His projected release date is 2035.
- robotnikman 4y ago
  odds are he will be dead before his sentence is up
- googlryas 4y ago
  He's actually serving prison in his own home since 2020, due to covid.
  - cortesoft 4y ago
    No, Ciavarella is the one still in prison. Conahan is the one on house arrest.
Animats 4y ago
> It should be jail. Federal prison. From the Bureau of Prisons inmate locator.[1] MARK A CIAVARELLA Register Number: 15008-067 Age: 72 Race: White Sex: Male Located at: Ashland FCI Release Date: 06/18/2035 MICHAEL T CONAHAN Register Number: 15009-067 Age: 70 Race: White Sex: Male Located at: Miami RRM Release Date: 08/19/2026 [1] https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/ https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/
- 420official 4y ago
  `Miami RRM` isn't quite a federal prison. These two would die in a supermax prison if there were any justice.
  - ada1981 4y ago
    Wouldn’t it be grand if they were sentenced to general population? Maybe even along side some of the people they wrongly imprisoned over the years? Of course these are ole, rich, white, federal judges - not the kind of people we’d want to subject to real prison life.
  - effingwewt 4y ago
    Federal minimal security has been known as 'club fed' as long as I've been alive. Part of being rich, powerful, and connected means they will live in private cells with tv, internet, phone, all the amenities of home if in prison. These two are going to a halfway home for rich people instead of prison and we are supposed to accept it as a reasonable punishment. More fuel for the fire. Edit-prison clarification
  - just_askin 4y ago
    This comment belongs on reddit, not here.
    - TomSwirly 4y ago
      Do you have an actual argument to offer? The judges and prisons sold out society, and imprisoned innocent children, destroying their lives in many cases. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8JRMGP2hg8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8JRMGP2hg8 Everyone involve deserves the maximum possible punishment, if only as an example to others. Instead, the people who ran the prison pay a fine, and the judges go to a nice prison for a few years.
qeternity 4y ago
Both were sent to jail. It’s right there in TFA.
- powerhour 4y ago
  Only one is in prison. The other is as good as free.

The punishment should be more than a fine it should be jail. If you can pay for the consequences then there are no laws. Take away their freedom and make them lose time in their life.

chaps 4y ago

There is prison time. Arguably a small amount. Ciavarella, 72, is serving a 28-year prison sentence in Kentucky. His projected release date is 2035.

robotnikman 4y ago
odds are he will be dead before his sentence is up
googlryas 4y ago
He's actually serving prison in his own home since 2020, due to covid.
- cortesoft 4y ago
  No, Ciavarella is the one still in prison. Conahan is the one on house arrest.

Animats 4y ago

> It should be jail. Federal prison. From the Bureau of Prisons inmate locator.[1] MARK A CIAVARELLA Register Number: 15008-067 Age: 72 Race: White Sex: Male Located at: Ashland FCI Release Date: 06/18/2035 MICHAEL T CONAHAN Register Number: 15009-067 Age: 70 Race: White Sex: Male Located at: Miami RRM Release Date: 08/19/2026 [1] https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/ https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/

420official 4y ago
`Miami RRM` isn't quite a federal prison. These two would die in a supermax prison if there were any justice.
- ada1981 4y ago
  Wouldn’t it be grand if they were sentenced to general population? Maybe even along side some of the people they wrongly imprisoned over the years? Of course these are ole, rich, white, federal judges - not the kind of people we’d want to subject to real prison life.
- effingwewt 4y ago
  Federal minimal security has been known as 'club fed' as long as I've been alive. Part of being rich, powerful, and connected means they will live in private cells with tv, internet, phone, all the amenities of home if in prison. These two are going to a halfway home for rich people instead of prison and we are supposed to accept it as a reasonable punishment. More fuel for the fire. Edit-prison clarification
- just_askin 4y ago
  This comment belongs on reddit, not here.
  - TomSwirly 4y ago
    Do you have an actual argument to offer? The judges and prisons sold out society, and imprisoned innocent children, destroying their lives in many cases. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8JRMGP2hg8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8JRMGP2hg8 Everyone involve deserves the maximum possible punishment, if only as an example to others. Instead, the people who ran the prison pay a fine, and the judges go to a nice prison for a few years.

qeternity 4y ago

Both were sent to jail. It’s right there in TFA.

powerhour 4y ago
Only one is in prison. The other is as good as free.