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U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang
- birdyrooster 4y agoCotton serves as a pretty potent metaphor for the American audience. I wonder what the perception of Xinjiang is like for Han Chinese. Do they see the people of Xinjiang as being Chinese? Do Chinese understand euphemisms like "reeducation" for what they really are? Is there Stockholm syndrome causing the Han to be protective of their shared oppressors?
- president 4y agoHave spoken to some Chinese engineers in the Bay Area and most see Uyghurs as terrorists (they will point to terrorist attacks) and do not know about (do not believe) the camps or oppression.
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- birdyrooster 4y agoCollective punishment is fascism and considering CPP indoctrination, I can see how the Chinese might see it as a legitimate form of social recourse. Thanks for the insight! I guess it was the Stockholm Syndrome answer all along.
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- daniel-cussen 4y agoWhat's the CPP? You mean CCP, Chinese Communist Party? And it's fascism at the same time? Like if I capture Osama bin Laden alive and take him to a camp in eg Morocco to make him pay for his sins, I can't ask him to do ten push-ups? Like he designs the murder of 2,988 people and I can't squeeze 10 push-ups out of him? Him in particular. The specific unique Wahhabi who committed the terrorism, like he matches the videos he released claiming responsibility, him. Ten pushups? There has to be integrity.
- walrus01 4y agoChinese government state media has vastly hyped up the "terrorist" thread from islamically radicalized Uyghurs. They've been doing it for years.
- TaXaZ 4y agoMany justify a long-term, sometimes subtle (even vague) concept that has been codified through years of education, culture, propaganda, and tangible massive on-the-ground benefits. That concept and the reason people on the east coast (Hans) support exploiting, manipulating, and projecting power on the west (Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, etc.) is determined by geopolitics. In one case, China's water resources and long-term economic stability depend on controlling the highlands in the west. The rest is just fabricated reasoning sugarcoating their strategy to cover this strategic vulnerability. A typical Han Chinese with roots in the developed east might not think in these terms transparently. Still, it has years of education and the harsh reality of its region to transform this into an assortment of (un)justified reasoning. They need it to control and secure their stability. This has also been the case in many other regions, for example, the Middle East, where such harsh geopolitical realities have been codified in different nationalistic and sectarian fractions.
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- nopenopenopeno 4y agoI don’t think American prison labor qualifies as “jobs” since it doesn’t even pay close to minimum wage, which is a ridiculously low bar to begin with.
- feet 4y agoDoes that mean China is actually better then the US in this circumstance?
- DiggyJohnson 4y ago> better Do you mean to ask who pays their prisoners more for their labor?
- feet 4y agoYes, in the US prison slavery is legal and practiced
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoWhat is the fundamental different between incarceration and penal labor? How can you be so strongly against the latter and not the former? I would happy to see the abolition of penal labor, but the widespread attempt to cast it as “slavery” feels hyperbolic - especially in comparison to the reality of chattel slavery.
- feet 4y agoThey are literally forced to do unpaid labor. There are also prison jobs that do pay, but extremely low amounts and those are generally optional. Prisons do also offer volunteer work, it being voluntary makes it not slavery. Incarceration on the other hand is a different topic altogether and I think the US system is incredibly harmful and creates an environment that produces recidivism. The Nordic system of rehabilitation is far better.