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>I wonder if the M2 Pro/Max/Ultra will after all be on the N3 node. IMO, the plain M2 was a 3nm design that had to be backported to TSMC 5nm due to the node tr
by GeekyBear 4y ago
>I wonder if the M2 Pro/Max/Ultra will after all be on the N3 node.
IMO, the plain M2 was a 3nm design that had to be backported to TSMC 5nm due to the node transition taking longer than projected, in the same way that Intel's Sunny Cove had to be backported from Intel's 10nm to their 14nm++++++ node.
The rumors now say that Apple is getting ready to build M2 Pro and M3 on TSMC 3nm.
>According to one analyst, they will be coming from TSMC, and will debut later this year. Even more tantalizing is the notion that these Apple SoCs will likely be the very first to use TSMC’s bleeding edge 3nm process. This is mildly surprising given the M2 chip revealed this week was made using TSMC’s 5nm process, just like the previous M1 products. Launching the M2 on two different nodes would require Apple to do the design work twice — once for a 5nm M2 and once for the 3nm M2 Pro.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/336862-apples-m2-pro-could-be-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm-silicon https://www.extremetech.com/computing/336862-apples-m2-pro-c...
My wild ass guess is that the M3 they are talking about here is the original M2 3nm design that was delayed.
- lostmsu 4y ago> According to one analyst e.g. no reason to believe. Everyone here is "an analyst" in that sense.
- GeekyBear 4y ago>A new 3nm M2 Pro chip is rumored to be in the works, and we could see it as early as this fall. There’s an M2 Pro chip and an M3 chip in the works, according to industry publication DigiTimes. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apple-to-deliver-3nm-m2-chip-soon/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apple-to-deliver-3nm...
- dwaite 4y agoIt'll be interesting to see what Apple does. Producing a single die M2 Max on a new process is likely to have terrible yields.
- GeekyBear 4y agoOne of the more interesting things that is currently rumored is an M2 Pro Mac Mini.