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> prevent such an occurrence again? By imprisoning geriatrics and a guy who made some songs people didn't like the messaging of? > ruling class wants to crush

by fein 4y ago

> prevent such an occurrence again? By imprisoning geriatrics and a guy who made some songs people didn't like the messaging of? > ruling class wants to crush all dissent against ruling class. I don't see the difference at all. These people are criticizing a sacred cow and the ruling class wants to crush that dissent.

ethanbond 4y ago
If you're thinking so hard that you can't see the difference between someone resurrecting the ideology responsible in real, actual, recent history for 20-30 million deaths, versus someone who is criticizing a brutal dictator, then you are thinking too hard. This doesn't need to break down to some formally correct logical statement. Simply look at the facts of each case, the goals of each party involved, the systems each party uses to legitimize its actions, and the resulting effects of each party pursuing their goals. Edit: Did you delete your very nasty message accusing me and “my ilk” of being “beyond repair?” I guess that language really fits with the whole “defending neo-Nazis” schtick.
- fein 4y ago
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  - ethanbond 4y ago
    That’s cute. No interest in being “repaired” by someone who can’t see the obvious difference between a democracy and a dictatorship, and the clear fact that even identical actions done by the two are not equally legitimate.
    - fein 4y ago
      Democracy? So the people of these countries had some say in these laws? They did not. I'm not aware of a democracy on Earth that isn't just a dictatorship with fancy clothes, at least at the federal level. My man, you're OK with throwing nonviolent offenders in jail for speech. This is not a good look.
      - ethanbond 4y ago
        A sensible person can think something is not okay and also think it's not equivalent to a theocratic dictatorship. A sensible person can also see that "being on the losing side of an election" is not equivalent to "not having anything resembling an election." I wouldn't even chalk these up to nuanced or detailed or subtle distinctions. These are basic, substantial differences that only a disgruntled WEIRD-worlder could struggle to detect.
- spacechild1 4y ago
  > Edit: Did you delete your very nasty message accusing me and “my ilk” of being “beyond repair?” The comment has been flagged, so it's hidden unless you enable "show dead".
spacechild1 4y ago
> These people are criticizing a sacred cow and the ruling class wants to crush that dissent. There is quite a difference between critizing the "Verbotsgesetz" and literally spreading neo-nazi hate speech.
- fein 4y ago

by fein 4y ago

ethanbond 4y ago

If you're thinking so hard that you can't see the difference between someone resurrecting the ideology responsible in real, actual, recent history for 20-30 million deaths, versus someone who is criticizing a brutal dictator, then you are thinking too hard. This doesn't need to break down to some formally correct logical statement. Simply look at the facts of each case, the goals of each party involved, the systems each party uses to legitimize its actions, and the resulting effects of each party pursuing their goals. Edit: Did you delete your very nasty message accusing me and “my ilk” of being “beyond repair?” I guess that language really fits with the whole “defending neo-Nazis” schtick.

fein 4y ago
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- ethanbond 4y ago
  That’s cute. No interest in being “repaired” by someone who can’t see the obvious difference between a democracy and a dictatorship, and the clear fact that even identical actions done by the two are not equally legitimate.
  - fein 4y ago
    Democracy? So the people of these countries had some say in these laws? They did not. I'm not aware of a democracy on Earth that isn't just a dictatorship with fancy clothes, at least at the federal level. My man, you're OK with throwing nonviolent offenders in jail for speech. This is not a good look.
    - ethanbond 4y ago
      A sensible person can think something is not okay and also think it's not equivalent to a theocratic dictatorship. A sensible person can also see that "being on the losing side of an election" is not equivalent to "not having anything resembling an election." I wouldn't even chalk these up to nuanced or detailed or subtle distinctions. These are basic, substantial differences that only a disgruntled WEIRD-worlder could struggle to detect.
spacechild1 4y ago
> Edit: Did you delete your very nasty message accusing me and “my ilk” of being “beyond repair?” The comment has been flagged, so it's hidden unless you enable "show dead".

spacechild1 4y ago

> These people are criticizing a sacred cow and the ruling class wants to crush that dissent. There is quite a difference between critizing the "Verbotsgesetz" and literally spreading neo-nazi hate speech.

fein 4y ago