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It is true, and you are both more likely to get sick and more likely to die from fresh vegetables than from steak. The primary contaminant in steak is E. coli.

It is true, and you are both more likely to get sick and more likely to die from fresh vegetables than from steak. The primary contaminant in steak is E. coli. You are more likely to consume E. coli from a salad than from a steak.

steve_adams_86 4y ago
The data doesn't back this up in any country I can find. A quick google search yields a few results, each pointing to the same conclusion: https://www.cdc.gov/foodborneburden/attribution/attribution-1998-2008.html https://www.cdc.gov/foodborneburden/attribution/attribution-... > Meat and poultry, a combination of four animal food categories, Beef, Game, Pork, and Poultry, accounted for fewer illnesses, but for 29% of deaths. Poultry accounted for the most deaths (19%); many of those were caused by Listeria and Salmonella infections. This rate is partly due to three large Listeria outbreaks linked to sliced processed deli turkey meat; the last such large outbreak occurred in 2002. Produce, on the other hand, accounted for 27% of deaths. However, it's important to distinguish here that produce accounts for 27% of all deaths, but animal products accounts for all of the rest. That's 73% of all food borne illness coming from animal products. You are far more likely to die from food borne illness caused by animal products; especially agricultural animals.
- throwaway09223 4y ago
  The data does back this up. You're looking at all kinds of meat there and not steak. Steak is significantly safer than other types of meat, and steak in particular is significantly safer than salad. As your link notes, chicken is one of the worst offenders Your data supports my point, not yours.
  - steve_adams_86 4y ago
    Right, I didn’t realize you meant steak and steak only. I was inferring meat in general. In that case I agree. It isn’t clear what the numbers are for beef but the fatalities are certainly lower.

steve_adams_86 4y ago

The data doesn't back this up in any country I can find. A quick google search yields a few results, each pointing to the same conclusion: https://www.cdc.gov/foodborneburden/attribution/attribution-1998-2008.html https://www.cdc.gov/foodborneburden/attribution/attribution-... > Meat and poultry, a combination of four animal food categories, Beef, Game, Pork, and Poultry, accounted for fewer illnesses, but for 29% of deaths. Poultry accounted for the most deaths (19%); many of those were caused by Listeria and Salmonella infections. This rate is partly due to three large Listeria outbreaks linked to sliced processed deli turkey meat; the last such large outbreak occurred in 2002. Produce, on the other hand, accounted for 27% of deaths. However, it's important to distinguish here that produce accounts for 27% of all deaths, but animal products accounts for all of the rest. That's 73% of all food borne illness coming from animal products. You are far more likely to die from food borne illness caused by animal products; especially agricultural animals.

throwaway09223 4y ago
The data does back this up. You're looking at all kinds of meat there and not steak. Steak is significantly safer than other types of meat, and steak in particular is significantly safer than salad. As your link notes, chicken is one of the worst offenders Your data supports my point, not yours.
- steve_adams_86 4y ago
  Right, I didn’t realize you meant steak and steak only. I was inferring meat in general. In that case I agree. It isn’t clear what the numbers are for beef but the fatalities are certainly lower.