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I mean if you go through them yourself and you'll see most (if not all) of those are closed. And the majority of the others dealt with composability issues betw

I mean if you go through them yourself and you'll see most (if not all) of those are closed. And the majority of the others dealt with composability issues between custom packages/libraries and not base Julia. Honestly it's a tooling + linter problem, and the lack of progress there (plus the general adversarial/celebratory tenor of that thread) made me pretty glad I've just moved onto Rust + python again. It's just too demoralizing from a dev's perspective to see. Don't get me wrong, I love multiple dispatch and Julia's composability + speed make it a no brainer for science/quant econ teams to adopt (and using it to train models on TPUs is a actually a sneaky way to save time + $), but they've lost the "culture" war and I can't see the entrenched masses here or elsewhere changing their minds on it. Not sure whether it's for job security sake or they got sick of all the "Julia is faster than/will replace X" evangelism or Plots loaded too slowly the one time they tried it years ago or a combination.

nsajko 4y ago
So you've decided to abandon a technology stack because of an unfavorable discussion thread on HN?
- jessfyi 4y ago
  No, because of lack of progress in areas I care about. It's just a tool that currently doesn't fit my most crucial needs, so I picked up other tools. The discussion was further evidence of the reality that I'd already come to terms with; the lack of inroads in building a larger community and general ecosystem is partly because of a lack of focus on things like tooling, linting, documentation standards, etc and partly because of a weird amount of disdain for the language. I can help with the former, but I don't have the time or energy for the latter because it's actually a set of large, long-term marketing, organizational, and psychological problems to overcome. Maybe someday down the road I'll be back, but I've given it a shot for about 8-9 years now.

nsajko 4y ago

So you've decided to abandon a technology stack because of an unfavorable discussion thread on HN?

jessfyi 4y ago
No, because of lack of progress in areas I care about. It's just a tool that currently doesn't fit my most crucial needs, so I picked up other tools. The discussion was further evidence of the reality that I'd already come to terms with; the lack of inroads in building a larger community and general ecosystem is partly because of a lack of focus on things like tooling, linting, documentation standards, etc and partly because of a weird amount of disdain for the language. I can help with the former, but I don't have the time or energy for the latter because it's actually a set of large, long-term marketing, organizational, and psychological problems to overcome. Maybe someday down the road I'll be back, but I've given it a shot for about 8-9 years now.