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That is interesting but what I find hard is getting a foot in the door when changing expertise field. In my case, I'm generally a mix of full stack dev and gam

That is interesting but what I find hard is getting a foot in the door when changing expertise field. In my case, I'm generally a mix of full stack dev and game dev (specialised in HTML5 game dev). I want to do more systems stuff (particularly Rust), and I've recently created a scripting language with a VM from scratch for a game engine as part of a side project. But I don't have any commercial experience or keywords for recruiters to find in my CV outside of what I'm already "expert" in, and it's hard to find companies that will understand that a good programmer can transfer skills from one language to another. To give an example, I recently got rejected at one job at the CV stage for "not having enough React experience" because my last job was in Vue so I wasn't technically using React in recent years (even though it's an extremely similar area of expertise)

mxuribe 4y ago
> ...I recently got rejected at one job at the CV stage for "not having enough React experience" because my last job was in Vue so I wasn't technically using React in recent years (even though it's an extremely similar area of expertise)... Ah, yes, the same old story that HR (or hiring manager) took the job description waaaay too literal, and missing the idea that a halfway decent technologist or developer can/should be able to reasonably pick up any other similar tech/stack...and as such, misseed out on a potentially good candidate. I swear that HR more than any other time in my life behaves more like robots looking to check boxes (or not checking boxes such as in your example). Or, maybe i'm just bitter because i got passed up for nice, interesting jobs in the past, where the candidates they ended up with were less qualified or left the org too soon (re-triggering the same job search again too soon)...plus, i would have stayed a lot longer, and given said orgs lots more of my passion, etc. But, no, i'm not bitter. Not bitter at all. ;-)
- uVacCXNiiJCTnYB 4y ago
  Yeah, I'm pretty bitter about it too. I've seen it in both industries I've worked at, it's so bad. Actual technical recruiters will contact me and be interested despite me barely matching their stack, and I once god hired on a job doing a technical test on a language I had (almost) never used before. But if I try actually applying to a job with my CV? Often rejected because I don't have keyword X. The same company would probably hire me if I came from a recruiter lol
  - mxuribe 4y ago
    Yeah I once got a job that way (and believe it or not, minus the test). Job hunting is broken period. /sigh
kdumont 4y ago
I’m actually hiring for a role that seems to fit what you’re looking for at a small team. There’s a significant graphical component (so game dev sounds relevant), it’s primarily in Rust, and the front-end is Vue! And I think it’s in an interesting space, but that’s also why I started this company :) Role details here: https://allspice.notion.site/Backend-Engineer-Data-Structures-844091d3def0467eb171b59ceb7ffa65 https://allspice.notion.site/Backend-Engineer-Data-Structure... Feel free to send me an email if you want: kyle@allspice dot io
- uVacCXNiiJCTnYB 4y ago
  It does seem interesting, I've wanted to get more into electronics since I played with HDL when following the nand 2 tetris book. Though I'm not super experienced in low level or Rust yet (which is why I want to get into it) and I'm in the UK, not US
sicp-enjoyer 4y ago
It's just the default way to hire. You look at what you want/previously had and see if they have it. As a candidate you should treat this as a sales problem and address it directly. If they are left with narrative they believe it probably won't be a problem.

mxuribe 4y ago

> ...I recently got rejected at one job at the CV stage for "not having enough React experience" because my last job was in Vue so I wasn't technically using React in recent years (even though it's an extremely similar area of expertise)... Ah, yes, the same old story that HR (or hiring manager) took the job description waaaay too literal, and missing the idea that a halfway decent technologist or developer can/should be able to reasonably pick up any other similar tech/stack...and as such, misseed out on a potentially good candidate. I swear that HR more than any other time in my life behaves more like robots looking to check boxes (or not checking boxes such as in your example). Or, maybe i'm just bitter because i got passed up for nice, interesting jobs in the past, where the candidates they ended up with were less qualified or left the org too soon (re-triggering the same job search again too soon)...plus, i would have stayed a lot longer, and given said orgs lots more of my passion, etc. But, no, i'm not bitter. Not bitter at all. ;-)

uVacCXNiiJCTnYB 4y ago
Yeah, I'm pretty bitter about it too. I've seen it in both industries I've worked at, it's so bad. Actual technical recruiters will contact me and be interested despite me barely matching their stack, and I once god hired on a job doing a technical test on a language I had (almost) never used before. But if I try actually applying to a job with my CV? Often rejected because I don't have keyword X. The same company would probably hire me if I came from a recruiter lol
- mxuribe 4y ago
  Yeah I once got a job that way (and believe it or not, minus the test). Job hunting is broken period. /sigh

kdumont 4y ago

I’m actually hiring for a role that seems to fit what you’re looking for at a small team. There’s a significant graphical component (so game dev sounds relevant), it’s primarily in Rust, and the front-end is Vue! And I think it’s in an interesting space, but that’s also why I started this company :) Role details here: https://allspice.notion.site/Backend-Engineer-Data-Structures-844091d3def0467eb171b59ceb7ffa65 https://allspice.notion.site/Backend-Engineer-Data-Structure... Feel free to send me an email if you want: kyle@allspice dot io

uVacCXNiiJCTnYB 4y ago
It does seem interesting, I've wanted to get more into electronics since I played with HDL when following the nand 2 tetris book. Though I'm not super experienced in low level or Rust yet (which is why I want to get into it) and I'm in the UK, not US

sicp-enjoyer 4y ago

It's just the default way to hire. You look at what you want/previously had and see if they have it. As a candidate you should treat this as a sales problem and address it directly. If they are left with narrative they believe it probably won't be a problem.