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I don't know about Chrome, but in Firefox: Chrome now hides the bookmark bar by default Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is alwa

by mg 4y ago

I don't know about Chrome, but in Firefox: Chrome now hides the bookmark bar by default Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible load common favorite news sites & blogs or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. Shift+Click on a bookmark folder does that pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right-click it again and click "Bookmark Tabs" i want it to be intuitive, efficient, and a prominent UX feature set I'm a heavy user of bookmarks, and I am pretty happy with the state of bookmarks in Firefox. What I do miss is a way to back them up from the command line. Firefox has a nice "Export Bookmarks to HTML" function, but it seems only available from the GUI, so there is no way to automatically backup the bookmarks in this nice format. I tried for a while to extract them from the SQLite DB FireFox stores them in, but the layout of that DB is pretty complex and bloated. Even after a bit of fiddling, I wasn't sure I really correctly got the data out.

alin23 4y ago
I actually had to do this yesterday for a small fuzzy search through bookmarks thing I’m building for myself. It was something like: SELECT url FROM moz_places WHERE id IN (SELECT fk FROM moz_bookmarks) You can find more info on that database here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Places/Places_SQL_queries_best_practices https://wiki.mozilla.org/Places/Places_SQL_queries_best_prac...
- mg 4y ago
  That only gives you the urls though. You lose the names, the folder structure, the order and the keywords. The HTML format FireFox can create is so nice, that for now I am willing to manually book them up to get that. Until someone can come up with a way to automate it.
  - alin23 4y ago
    You can get names, folder, and ordered by date added in a nice JSON format: sqlite3 -json /tmp/places.sqlite '\ SELECT p.url, b.title, (SELECT f.title FROM moz_bookmarks f WHERE fk IS NULL AND f.id=b.parent) AS folder \ FROM moz_places p \ INNER JOIN moz_bookmarks b ON b.fk=p.id \ ORDER BY b."dateAdded"' The full folder structure might be a bit more complex to get, I only have them on the top level and can’t experiment. Not sure what the keywords, never used such a thing. I only rely on the title, and I’ll extract the text content of the link for a full text search through it because usually I’ll remember something from the contents and will try to search that instead of something from the title. I can’t predict what I’ll remember.
mackrevinack 4y ago
tab stash is a pretty decent extension for quickly saving tabs and then restoring them later with one click https://github.com/josh-berry/tab-stash https://github.com/josh-berry/tab-stash and unlike some other tab management extensions, it uses native bookmarks to store things which means you can still access the stashed tabs if you sync them to firefox mobile
- bobajeff 4y ago
  I like the idea of stashing tabs for later. But doesn't saving to bookmarks remove the History of the tab in the process? That's what I think we need is a way to save the whole session of the tab. Not just the last page. Or maybe a way to graph multidimensional browsing history.
- dugite-code 4y ago
  Oh Damn, that's actually quite useful. I really like it so far
- raghavbali 4y ago
  this is sweet... thanks for the suggestion
- RamblingCTO 4y ago
  I use SessionSync for that, wonderful extension!
bryanrasmussen 4y ago
I think FF has some sort of responsive /platform layout thing going on with the browser, my FF developer in a crappy windows laptop has a slightly different layout where the top menu is hidden within a hamburger icon on the right and that is different on my bigger mac display. Which makes sense, I don't have a lot of real estate on this machine (need to tell the work it's not going to cut it I guess)
- khorne 4y ago
  Right-click the hamburger icon, toggle Menu bar and/or Bookmark toolbar.
- forgotpwd16 4y ago
  >that is different on my bigger mac display How? Maybe you're talking about Mac's global menu bar?
kkfx 4y ago
I do not know for Chrome BUT on Firefox you can normally ignore bookmarks in a bar or menu using a normally quicker and more effective direct bookmark search&narrow using the search bar starting with an asterisk. Similarly the ampersand search in history. We have nearly abandoned menu as UI elements because a CLI-alike search&narrow UI is better in general, just file managers remain lagging behind with their crappy UI...
mariusor 4y ago
> What I do miss is a way to back them up from the command line. I think a solution can be easily scripted seeing as firefox stores its internal data in multiple sqlite files.
littlecranky67 4y ago
> Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible you can set it to show/hide, but also to "Only show on new tab" which I use. That way I don't lose screen space, but and CMD+T (Ctrl+T on non-mac) will show my most important bookmarks in the bar right away.
- lasc4r 4y ago
  This sounds nice, I just tried to do this and it doesn't work. Restarted FF and then my PC, still nothing when I open a new tab. It's too bad too, because I just realized how annoying my bookmarks bar is. edit: It seems that if your new tab is set to 'blank page' it doesn't work, the default "firefox home' works though. For...reasons.
forgotpwd16 4y ago
>so there is no way to automatically backup the bookmarks in this nice format Firefox automatically backs up current bookmarks in lz4-compressed json under $profiledir/bookmarkbackups ($profiledir by default being like ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxx.default). Can also autoexport to an HTML file by setting the following about:config prefs: browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML => (boolean) true browser.bookmarks.file => (string) "/home/user/bookmarks.html" If later pref is omitted then file will be $profiledir/bookmarks.html. An issue with depending on this functionality is the backup happens when closing the browser.
- MasterYoda 4y ago
  I may misunderstand! But how often is the bookmarks autoexported to html? Can you set the interval also?
  - forgotpwd16 4y ago
    When closing the browser which may be an issue if someone keeps it always open.
- mg 4y ago
  Yay, this is beautiful! I had to set "browser.bookmarks.file" to "bookmarks.html". When omitting it, no file seems to be written.
j_4 4y ago
Middle click on a bookmark folder will work as well, opening the tabs in the same window, which is what I want to do most of the time. Shift-click opens them in a new window.
- stokesr 4y ago
  I've been including it as step one in my work routine for over a year now, it's so much easier to pick work back up the next morning when I can be exactly where I left off the night before
ivolimmen 4y ago
For Firefox bookmarks: please look here for the query: https://github.com/IvoLimmen/mystart/blob/master/bookmarkimporter/firefox/src/main/java/org/limmen/mystart/importer/FireFoxParser.java https://github.com/IvoLimmen/mystart/blob/master/bookmarkimp...
cadwag 4y ago
I use histre (http://histre.com http://histre.com) to accomplish this functionality, not only within Firefox but across browsers, computers, and even colleagues. My favorite feature is being able to save all tabs within a window, send a link to a co-worker, and have them open up all the tabs. It takes like 5 secs, end to end. Best of all: if they have the histre extension as well, they can instantly open all the tabs at once and even see my highlights - it’s like being able to send a browser window state to another person!
- kirubakaran 4y ago
  Thanks! I work on https://histre.com/ https://histre.com/ and lot of users say that this feature is very useful to them. Many of them say that they use separate windows for each thing they're trying to do, and before you know it you have 10 different windows with a lot of tabs each. You can save the states of all of them and restore them selectively, as you said. https://histre.com/features/save-restore-tabs/ https://histre.com/features/save-restore-tabs/ Bookmarks are too primitive imho. It is typically treated as just one link. It is useful to know the whole context around that. How did you get there? What else where you researching? Histre saves all that for you in a tree-style history. On the other end of the manual work spectrum is elaborate note-taking about everything ("second brain"), keeping that organized enough to be useful etc, which takes too much time for nebulous benefit. Histre takes care of all your knowledge management needs without making you do busywork.
nebalee 4y ago
Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right-click it again and click "Bookmark Tabs" Also, individual tabs can be added to the selection by Ctrl-Clicking them.
kal247 4y ago
> What I do miss is a way to back them up from the command line. I've written a Perl script that print bookmarks from Safari/Firefox/Chrome/Edge as <title><url><description>, but maybe it's too raw. https://github.com/kal247/App-bookmarks https://github.com/kal247/App-bookmarks I might add other formatting options (HTML or Template Toolkit) if there's enough interest.
timvisee 4y ago
Yes! And useful stuff like `*` in the address bar to search just bookmarks.

by mg 4y ago

alin23 4y ago

I actually had to do this yesterday for a small fuzzy search through bookmarks thing I’m building for myself. It was something like: SELECT url FROM moz_places WHERE id IN (SELECT fk FROM moz_bookmarks) You can find more info on that database here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Places/Places_SQL_queries_best_practices https://wiki.mozilla.org/Places/Places_SQL_queries_best_prac...

mg 4y ago
That only gives you the urls though. You lose the names, the folder structure, the order and the keywords. The HTML format FireFox can create is so nice, that for now I am willing to manually book them up to get that. Until someone can come up with a way to automate it.
- alin23 4y ago
  You can get names, folder, and ordered by date added in a nice JSON format: sqlite3 -json /tmp/places.sqlite '\ SELECT p.url, b.title, (SELECT f.title FROM moz_bookmarks f WHERE fk IS NULL AND f.id=b.parent) AS folder \ FROM moz_places p \ INNER JOIN moz_bookmarks b ON b.fk=p.id \ ORDER BY b."dateAdded"' The full folder structure might be a bit more complex to get, I only have them on the top level and can’t experiment. Not sure what the keywords, never used such a thing. I only rely on the title, and I’ll extract the text content of the link for a full text search through it because usually I’ll remember something from the contents and will try to search that instead of something from the title. I can’t predict what I’ll remember.

mackrevinack 4y ago

tab stash is a pretty decent extension for quickly saving tabs and then restoring them later with one click https://github.com/josh-berry/tab-stash https://github.com/josh-berry/tab-stash and unlike some other tab management extensions, it uses native bookmarks to store things which means you can still access the stashed tabs if you sync them to firefox mobile

bobajeff 4y ago
I like the idea of stashing tabs for later. But doesn't saving to bookmarks remove the History of the tab in the process? That's what I think we need is a way to save the whole session of the tab. Not just the last page. Or maybe a way to graph multidimensional browsing history.
dugite-code 4y ago
Oh Damn, that's actually quite useful. I really like it so far
raghavbali 4y ago
this is sweet... thanks for the suggestion
RamblingCTO 4y ago
I use SessionSync for that, wonderful extension!

bryanrasmussen 4y ago

I think FF has some sort of responsive /platform layout thing going on with the browser, my FF developer in a crappy windows laptop has a slightly different layout where the top menu is hidden within a hamburger icon on the right and that is different on my bigger mac display. Which makes sense, I don't have a lot of real estate on this machine (need to tell the work it's not going to cut it I guess)

khorne 4y ago
Right-click the hamburger icon, toggle Menu bar and/or Bookmark toolbar.
forgotpwd16 4y ago
>that is different on my bigger mac display How? Maybe you're talking about Mac's global menu bar?

kkfx 4y ago

I do not know for Chrome BUT on Firefox you can normally ignore bookmarks in a bar or menu using a normally quicker and more effective direct bookmark search&narrow using the search bar starting with an asterisk. Similarly the ampersand search in history. We have nearly abandoned menu as UI elements because a CLI-alike search&narrow UI is better in general, just file managers remain lagging behind with their crappy UI...

mariusor 4y ago

> What I do miss is a way to back them up from the command line. I think a solution can be easily scripted seeing as firefox stores its internal data in multiple sqlite files.

littlecranky67 4y ago

> Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible you can set it to show/hide, but also to "Only show on new tab" which I use. That way I don't lose screen space, but and CMD+T (Ctrl+T on non-mac) will show my most important bookmarks in the bar right away.

lasc4r 4y ago
This sounds nice, I just tried to do this and it doesn't work. Restarted FF and then my PC, still nothing when I open a new tab. It's too bad too, because I just realized how annoying my bookmarks bar is. edit: It seems that if your new tab is set to 'blank page' it doesn't work, the default "firefox home' works though. For...reasons.

forgotpwd16 4y ago

>so there is no way to automatically backup the bookmarks in this nice format Firefox automatically backs up current bookmarks in lz4-compressed json under $profiledir/bookmarkbackups ($profiledir by default being like ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxx.default). Can also autoexport to an HTML file by setting the following about:config prefs: browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML => (boolean) true browser.bookmarks.file => (string) "/home/user/bookmarks.html" If later pref is omitted then file will be $profiledir/bookmarks.html. An issue with depending on this functionality is the backup happens when closing the browser.

MasterYoda 4y ago
I may misunderstand! But how often is the bookmarks autoexported to html? Can you set the interval also?
- forgotpwd16 4y ago
  When closing the browser which may be an issue if someone keeps it always open.
mg 4y ago
Yay, this is beautiful! I had to set "browser.bookmarks.file" to "bookmarks.html". When omitting it, no file seems to be written.

j_4 4y ago

Middle click on a bookmark folder will work as well, opening the tabs in the same window, which is what I want to do most of the time. Shift-click opens them in a new window.

stokesr 4y ago
I've been including it as step one in my work routine for over a year now, it's so much easier to pick work back up the next morning when I can be exactly where I left off the night before

ivolimmen 4y ago

For Firefox bookmarks: please look here for the query: https://github.com/IvoLimmen/mystart/blob/master/bookmarkimporter/firefox/src/main/java/org/limmen/mystart/importer/FireFoxParser.java https://github.com/IvoLimmen/mystart/blob/master/bookmarkimp...

cadwag 4y ago

I use histre (http://histre.com http://histre.com) to accomplish this functionality, not only within Firefox but across browsers, computers, and even colleagues. My favorite feature is being able to save all tabs within a window, send a link to a co-worker, and have them open up all the tabs. It takes like 5 secs, end to end. Best of all: if they have the histre extension as well, they can instantly open all the tabs at once and even see my highlights - it’s like being able to send a browser window state to another person!

kirubakaran 4y ago
Thanks! I work on https://histre.com/ https://histre.com/ and lot of users say that this feature is very useful to them. Many of them say that they use separate windows for each thing they're trying to do, and before you know it you have 10 different windows with a lot of tabs each. You can save the states of all of them and restore them selectively, as you said. https://histre.com/features/save-restore-tabs/ https://histre.com/features/save-restore-tabs/ Bookmarks are too primitive imho. It is typically treated as just one link. It is useful to know the whole context around that. How did you get there? What else where you researching? Histre saves all that for you in a tree-style history. On the other end of the manual work spectrum is elaborate note-taking about everything ("second brain"), keeping that organized enough to be useful etc, which takes too much time for nebulous benefit. Histre takes care of all your knowledge management needs without making you do busywork.

nebalee 4y ago

Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right-click it again and click "Bookmark Tabs" Also, individual tabs can be added to the selection by Ctrl-Clicking them.

kal247 4y ago

> What I do miss is a way to back them up from the command line. I've written a Perl script that print bookmarks from Safari/Firefox/Chrome/Edge as <title><url><description>, but maybe it's too raw. https://github.com/kal247/App-bookmarks https://github.com/kal247/App-bookmarks I might add other formatting options (HTML or Template Toolkit) if there's enough interest.

timvisee 4y ago

Yes! And useful stuff like `*` in the address bar to search just bookmarks.