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Show HN: I made a writing tool that asks questions like Socrates
- idiotsecant 4y agoDo I need to make an account to test this? It seems to let me get to the topic prompt without logging in and then insists on a log in.
- pilgrimfff 4y agoSame. Don't love that kind of bait-and-switch UX.
- failTide 4y agoagreed, did not like that - instantly closed it.
- stephc_int13 4y agoSame. This is bad UX.
- 98codes 4y agoSeemed like it to me -- quick way to get me to close the tab and never think about it again.
- tylertaewook 4y agoI'm definitely seeing the trend here about the topic prompt! Just starting to realize that this indeed is a bad UX choice. I was always logged in when I was developing so didn't think about this issue. Will fix ASAP!
- personjerry 4y agoIs this just a wrapper around GPT-3?
- turnsout 4y agoIs a weather app just a wrapper around the weather API?
- supperrtadderr 4y agoIDK about you but I check the weather each day by just reading the Weather API JSON response. Sometimes I make mistakes.
- lagrange77 4y agoNice! Did you make the 3d model on the landing page yourself? Any tutorials on that maybe?
- naet 4y agoIf you reverse search the image it is on a lot of other sites so I'm guessing they did not make it.
- tylertaewook 4y agoit's from one of free resources on figma! It's called "SALY - 3D illustration pack"
- codingdave 4y agoClever idea. I like the concept, and think it could be a great product. But your site gives me a bad vibe: 1) I feel like the term, "Socratic method" is fairly well understood. Am I wrong? Because trying to rephrase it feels like you are dumbing down your marketing for an audience that... well, isn't me. Which is fine if I'm an outlier. I just thought it was a common term. 2) Either let people try it, or make them create an account. Having a page that looks like it is going to let you try it, lets you enter a subject, and then prompts you to login feels worse than just forcing a login right away. (Which is also a problem, but at least doesn't feel like you are trying to trick us.)
- netanbing 4y agoYes! Completely agree with your second point. Users shouldn't have to think and type a query only to find out the "Create Draft" takes you to a Google login page. Poor UX design choice.
- smitty1e 4y ago3) One cannot put substantial content into the cloud without knowing that it will be used in ways one cannot anticipate.
- tylertaewook 4y ago1) I will take note of that. I wasn't sure how common the term was because I never heard of it, but I'm realizing it's actually a lot more common than I thought 2) I absolutely agree with you; I should've given more thought on that. In short-term, I will just redirect users to login-page right away. In long-term, I'm planning on making a 'guest-mode' so users can try it out before having to sign-in
- Multicomp 4y agoI like the idea of this if I am writing an article - I gave this (pretty) webpage only about 17 seconds of time to search for if it had anything for fiction writers - it doesn't appear to, which is fine, but might be worth nothing this is for non-fiction.
- vivegi 4y agoThe demo video was cool. I wish the www/internet existed when I was in high school and this tool would have been a killer app for writing student essays / reports.
- tylertaewook 4y agoThank you :) I'm a rising freshman with a writing course next semester, and I'm definitely going to use this tool for my classes
- stephc_int13 4y agoI like the idea, but having to log in with Google made me pause, and then I closed the page. I am OK to register, even if I think that a quick demo should be possible without this step. But I won't register with Google or Facebook or anything except an email.
- motoboi 4y agoI'm quite the opposite. Please don't make me register by mail, just use Google identity and please use the minimal scope.
- stephc_int13 4y agoYou can use a temporary "junk" email when registering to something like that for testing it. It is not very convenient to do the same with Google etc.
- cruano 4y agoGood luck when google decides you infringed some TOS because you uploaded a youtube video with music playing on the background or some BS like that and just locks you out of all the services you registered with that feature
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- tetrojopsa 4y agoIt took me less than 15 seconds to create an account on hackernews using a temp-mail (any free service would suffice) to respond to this comment (less than writing the comment itself) try creating a new google account: - whoops, you need a phone number - whoops, you need to go through a welcome guide (it's getting progressively harder to skip it) - etc. etc. All that for trying some use random service some random posted on some random news aggregator website without tying it to your 'main online identity' ............
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- tunesmith 4y agoI think this is an amazing tool and implementation, particularly if it is geared toward helping the author understand the issue efficiently. I would recommend a better voice-over for the video, it is by far the limiting factor of the presentation. Finally, I would recommend adding more plagiarism controls to the tool. People are going to be so tempted to just paste in what the AI summarizes without understanding or even reading it in depth.
- csw-001 4y agoMy first thought here was "tools like this could be a really cool to help improve the quality of my student's papers." My immediate second thought was "this trend in tooling is going to lead to tons of AI churned summary copypasta in all of the future paper's I read."
- tylertaewook 4y agothat's actually one of my biggest concerns since I do not yet have a way to hard-prevent them from just copying and pasting summaries. I'll have to do more research to figure this out, but it's definitely on top of my mind
- tylertaewook 4y agoI used my iphone for recording, so that's probably why. I agree to your second point. I added caution in the info tooltip but I have yet to figure out an active way to prevent users from just copying and pasting the content.
- yessirwhatever 4y ago- No need to sign up to try it - I will never sign up with my Google account
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- tylertaewook 4y ago1) One of GPT-3 usage guideline was not to make the app available for public without an account. I am required to send the userID for every GPT request by their guidelines, so I had to force-signin for now. I am considering to make a guest_mode in the near future tho. 2) Seeing the trend here, I'll make a email signup asap
- neoncontrails 4y agoThis is so cool. I'm a Hyperwrite subscriber and would absolutely consider switching to Scraft.ai if it works as well as I'm imagining. Although GPT-3 can be a powerful ally when writing emails, proposals, documents, etc., on tight deadlines, for me personally, I find it's dreadfully easy to get "stuck" in vicious feedback loops as a result of the language model's tendency to expand rather than react. A great editor will push you to clarify sentences that are vague, improve arguments that are muddled, and (where I'm thinking, Scraft.ai might really shine) is a master of dialectic, poking and prodding at the logical substance of each draft and helping you to realize more clearly at each step of this iterative process what, exactly, it is that you want to say. I look forward to giving this a shot! It's funny, I'll sometimes spark up a conversation with Socrates in the GPT-3 sandbox if I'm ever looking for a spirited adversary to pick apart an argument before I make it. Explaining one's thoughts to an imaginary interlocutor not only makes writing more fun -- joyful, even -- but in my experience, helps me produce a higher quality product vs. simply asking "mediocre Westworld fascimile of myself, fine-tuned on a corpus of mundane office emails I wrote" to finish my sentences for me.
- tylertaewook 4y agoThank you for your kind feedback! I wanted this tool to be thought provoking and not just mindlessly watch AI write the entire essay for you.
- OJFord 4y agoWhen it generates sentences like (from the video) 'according to the research in 2012' and 'MIT and Harvard developed Tissue-Bio', is that (intended to be) accurate? Or is that to be taken as suggested boilerplate for real facts to be replaced there?
- tylertaewook 4y agoAs mentioned in the info popup, I cannot guarantee how factual/true the AI-generated contents are. They are only meant to be used for inspirations so I would take caution just copying and pasting to the draft like I did in the video. Probably need to mention that that part of the video is actually not advised for plagiarism issue.
- mdcds 4y agoIs there a way to create account / login without Google account?
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- azeirah 4y agoI can't sign-up because my google account doesn't have a last name. Django error: Field last_name cannot be blank
- powerhour 4y agoSee also: "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Names" https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-...
- tylertaewook 4y agosorry about that! just fixed it in a recent push.
- status200 4y agoGoogle sign in only? Not a fan, but seems like an interesting idea.
- henriquemaia 4y agoYour product seems nice. I have nothing to take away from it. However, consider what codingdave have told you about the Socratic questions. The ones in the video are no doubt helpful for someone trying to find their way on a text. But they are not Socratic questions. Good luck for your project.
- lfpeb8b45ez 4y agoWhy?
- cupachabra 4y agoSounds like a fun idea! Are you planning to monetise this in some way?
- tylertaewook 4y agoI literally released it couple of days ago so I haven't thought about it yet. The costs are minimal atm, so I'm just trying to reach students who can make good use of it for free
- dna_polymerase 4y agoI’m beginning to hate the same Tailwind UI on every SaaS website. Especially since people are too lazy to even change the main color.
- tylertaewook 4y agoThis is my first web project so I'm still learning css. TailwindUI just seemed like the shortcut to me, but I feel what you're saying. I do see them a lot too