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I'm glad the FDA is finally moving on this - though what President Biden said is somewhat specious. Biden: "This action makes good on my commitment to lower co

by IncRnd 4y ago

I'm glad the FDA is finally moving on this - though what President Biden said is somewhat specious. Biden: "This action makes good on my commitment to lower costs for American families, delivering nearly $3,000 in savings to American families for a pair of hearing aids and giving people more choices to improve their health and well-being." However, this is really due to the Over-the-Counter Hearing Aid Act that was signed into law in 2017 by President Trump. There would be no shame in Biden praising an action made by Trump or in Trump praising an action made by Obama.

elicash 4y ago
From NPR: Congress passed that proposal at the time, but the Trump administration FDA didn't issue the rules that would actually allow for those devices to be sold directly to consumers. It's being implemented now because of the July 2021 "Executive Order on Promoting Competition in the American Economy," in which Biden called on the FDA to take action on over-the-counter hearing aids within 120 days (among a variety of other provisions). https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/12/07/fda-takes-action-deliver-lower-cost-innovative-hearing-aids-millions-more-americans https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/12/07/fda-tak...
- IncRnd 4y ago
  That's my point. The Act specified three years for the implementation, which HHS/FDA ignored. As I wrote, "There would be no shame in Biden praising an action made by Trump or in Trump praising an action made by Obama."
  - powerhour 4y ago
    I'm not sure signing a bill that did not actually take effect (due to the people put in charge by the signer) should count as an action. I mean, sure, he moved his hand. We'll have to wait and see if Biden's FDA will take substantive action.
    - wrycoder 4y ago
      The president has little actual control of the FDA. It's a bureaucracy and answers to neither party. "We be here when you gone."
  - elicash 4y ago
    Where's the shame in taking credit for an action that he took himself? Yes, both Trump and Obama did things on this front. But Biden is the one who got it done.
    - IncRnd 4y ago
      There is no shame. However, this was literally the job of HHS/FDA as directed by law that Warren sponsored and Trump signed. Someone shouldn't be so loud and specious in taking credit when doing their job as ordered by law. As the article says, "The move comes more than four years after Congress ordered the FDA to craft regulations for over-the-counter devices."
      - elicash 4y ago
        HE specifically cited his own Executive Order, which is why this actually got done. He only took credit for his own actions! If he had cited what Obama did and took credit for that, or what Warren did and took credit for that, you'd have a point.
        IncRnd 4y ago
        Even the FDA in their statement cited the history of the rule, "In 2017, Congress passed bipartisan legislation requiring the FDA to create a category of OTC hearing aids, but it was not fully implemented until now. Consumers could see OTC hearing aids available in traditional retail and drug stores as soon as mid-October when the rule takes effect."
        elicash 4y ago
        Yes, you are making my point. Biden only took credit for things he did. He didn't take credit for the legislation. Nor did he take credit for what Obama did on this issue. The only thing Biden cited having doing is the EO. You left that part out of your quote, but that's the only thing he cited having done on this. Thankfully, he got this done finally!

by IncRnd 4y ago

elicash 4y ago

From NPR: Congress passed that proposal at the time, but the Trump administration FDA didn't issue the rules that would actually allow for those devices to be sold directly to consumers. It's being implemented now because of the July 2021 "Executive Order on Promoting Competition in the American Economy," in which Biden called on the FDA to take action on over-the-counter hearing aids within 120 days (among a variety of other provisions). https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/12/07/fda-takes-action-deliver-lower-cost-innovative-hearing-aids-millions-more-americans https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/12/07/fda-tak...

IncRnd 4y ago
That's my point. The Act specified three years for the implementation, which HHS/FDA ignored. As I wrote, "There would be no shame in Biden praising an action made by Trump or in Trump praising an action made by Obama."
- powerhour 4y ago
  I'm not sure signing a bill that did not actually take effect (due to the people put in charge by the signer) should count as an action. I mean, sure, he moved his hand. We'll have to wait and see if Biden's FDA will take substantive action.
  - wrycoder 4y ago
    The president has little actual control of the FDA. It's a bureaucracy and answers to neither party. "We be here when you gone."
- elicash 4y ago
  Where's the shame in taking credit for an action that he took himself? Yes, both Trump and Obama did things on this front. But Biden is the one who got it done.
  - IncRnd 4y ago
    There is no shame. However, this was literally the job of HHS/FDA as directed by law that Warren sponsored and Trump signed. Someone shouldn't be so loud and specious in taking credit when doing their job as ordered by law. As the article says, "The move comes more than four years after Congress ordered the FDA to craft regulations for over-the-counter devices."
    - elicash 4y ago
      HE specifically cited his own Executive Order, which is why this actually got done. He only took credit for his own actions! If he had cited what Obama did and took credit for that, or what Warren did and took credit for that, you'd have a point.
      - IncRnd 4y ago
        Even the FDA in their statement cited the history of the rule, "In 2017, Congress passed bipartisan legislation requiring the FDA to create a category of OTC hearing aids, but it was not fully implemented until now. Consumers could see OTC hearing aids available in traditional retail and drug stores as soon as mid-October when the rule takes effect."
        elicash 4y ago
        Yes, you are making my point. Biden only took credit for things he did. He didn't take credit for the legislation. Nor did he take credit for what Obama did on this issue. The only thing Biden cited having doing is the EO. You left that part out of your quote, but that's the only thing he cited having done on this. Thankfully, he got this done finally!