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Okay wanted to post "hahahahahahahahahahaha!" but that doesn't add much to the discussion. The HP printer product managers really seemed to believe "because HP"

Okay wanted to post "hahahahahahahahahahaha!" but that doesn't add much to the discussion. The HP printer product managers really seemed to believe "because HP" was a license to rip off people who bought their printers. I knew they were in trouble when I was forced to replace my completely functional HP inkjet because they refused to provide drivers for Windows 10. Did the research and found an Epson Ecotank printer[1] that would meet my needs and oh hey, did NOT bone my on the cost of ink or make me sign up for "subscriptions" etc. Then I went to buy it. Out of stock everywhere with multi-week lead times, while HP printers were "ready to ship now." I put in an order with Epson directly and waited. But what I took away from this is that HP is having a harder and harder time trying to sell their product with its "great monthly recurring revenue!" which I'm sure some product manager is super proud of. Way to go dude, you killed your own product in search of more profit for your company. [1] In case anyone wonders, its the ET-7750 (and yes the printer it replaced was a wide format printer) based on my historical usage it will be "free" (total operating cost < than the HP equivalent) in about 24 months. I don't use the scanner even.

CodeWriter23 4y ago
I purchased an EcoTank ET-2760 at Costco last year. When it prints, it prints pretty good and it seems like we get good economy from the ink. BUT we go through these cycles of printing a lot then nothing for weeks. So after one of the "rest" periods, we usually have to run the cleaning routine multiple times to get a decent print. That and my wife failed to grok how the colors were keyed to the different reservoirs and ended up spilling a lot of cyan ink trying to force it. Maybe you dodged a bullet.
- ChuckMcM 4y ago
  Could be. I find that if I haven't printed anything for a while it does it's cleaning thing (which takes a while) and then prints as expected. Some folks have complained that the 'dump tray' (where it puts ink as its trying to clean the nozzles) fills up to quickly but I've yet to see that issue pop up. That said, nearly all the patents for the early inkjets have expired now so it is presumably possible for someone to build an inkjet printer, with affordable (and refillable/recyclable) cartridges without worrying about infringing. I don't know of anyone doing that but I could see it happening.
- waynesonfire 4y ago
  So predictable, I'll never buy inkjet.
nicbou 4y ago
Isn't Epson the king of user-hostile MBA stunts? If one company has forever lost my business, it would have to be them.

CodeWriter23 4y ago

I purchased an EcoTank ET-2760 at Costco last year. When it prints, it prints pretty good and it seems like we get good economy from the ink. BUT we go through these cycles of printing a lot then nothing for weeks. So after one of the "rest" periods, we usually have to run the cleaning routine multiple times to get a decent print. That and my wife failed to grok how the colors were keyed to the different reservoirs and ended up spilling a lot of cyan ink trying to force it. Maybe you dodged a bullet.

ChuckMcM 4y ago
Could be. I find that if I haven't printed anything for a while it does it's cleaning thing (which takes a while) and then prints as expected. Some folks have complained that the 'dump tray' (where it puts ink as its trying to clean the nozzles) fills up to quickly but I've yet to see that issue pop up. That said, nearly all the patents for the early inkjets have expired now so it is presumably possible for someone to build an inkjet printer, with affordable (and refillable/recyclable) cartridges without worrying about infringing. I don't know of anyone doing that but I could see it happening.
waynesonfire 4y ago
So predictable, I'll never buy inkjet.

nicbou 4y ago

Isn't Epson the king of user-hostile MBA stunts? If one company has forever lost my business, it would have to be them.