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Q2 of 2020 was one of the weirdest quarters in American history. From covid lockdowns to race riots, to heightened police-civilian tensions; there was nothing n

by screye 4y ago

Q2 of 2020 was one of the weirdest quarters in American history. From covid lockdowns to race riots, to heightened police-civilian tensions; there was nothing normal about it. I would love to see these exact same graphs juxtaposed against a normal year such as 2019. Anecdotally, the crime rates in west coast blue city downtowns have skyrocketed. It seems impossible to park your car in Seattle/Portland/SF downtowns and not have it be broken in. The average junkie seems to have gotten more aggressive and bashful too. I wonder if the rise of p2p meth has something to do with it. (https://dynomight.net/p2p-meth/ https://dynomight.net/p2p-meth/)

guywithahat 4y ago
Well it's certainly the refusal to convict criminals. After the BLM protests we saw many cities you listed made it illegal to arrest people who steal stuff under a certain threshold (among other crimes), and the threshold was set really high (in San Francisco it was $950). Very predictably this has driven up crime and San Francisco's District Attorney was recalled for the policy. It's quite possible people have been able to purchase more drugs because of the increased crime, but these policies are why crime has skyrocketed and why we've seen so many videos of people going into stores and stealing garbage bags of stuff
- xsmasher 4y ago
  * Prop 47 was a state proposition in 2014 * it was not specific to SF * it predates the 2020 BLM protest * it did not "[make] it illegal to arrest people" * It made some thefts in misdemeanors
- screye 4y ago
  > San Francisco's District Attorney Predictable outcome of voting Chesa Boudin into power. > refusal to convict criminals I know that something similar happened with Pete Holmes in Seattle as district attorney. The attorney's office was so reluctant to prosecute crime, that police stopped responding to minor crimes all together. As of 2022 both people have been voted out of office despite being in deep-blue electorates. Hopefully this points to a more sensible approach towards policing and prosecution in the future.

by screye 4y ago

guywithahat 4y ago

Well it's certainly the refusal to convict criminals. After the BLM protests we saw many cities you listed made it illegal to arrest people who steal stuff under a certain threshold (among other crimes), and the threshold was set really high (in San Francisco it was $950). Very predictably this has driven up crime and San Francisco's District Attorney was recalled for the policy. It's quite possible people have been able to purchase more drugs because of the increased crime, but these policies are why crime has skyrocketed and why we've seen so many videos of people going into stores and stealing garbage bags of stuff

xsmasher 4y ago
* Prop 47 was a state proposition in 2014 * it was not specific to SF * it predates the 2020 BLM protest * it did not "[make] it illegal to arrest people" * It made some thefts in misdemeanors
screye 4y ago
> San Francisco's District Attorney Predictable outcome of voting Chesa Boudin into power. > refusal to convict criminals I know that something similar happened with Pete Holmes in Seattle as district attorney. The attorney's office was so reluctant to prosecute crime, that police stopped responding to minor crimes all together. As of 2022 both people have been voted out of office despite being in deep-blue electorates. Hopefully this points to a more sensible approach towards policing and prosecution in the future.