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A big thing in the debate around TTIP had been the European "fear" about American cholrinated chicken. Here in Europe people were afraid of having chicken meat

A big thing in the debate around TTIP had been the European "fear" about American cholrinated chicken. Here in Europe people were afraid of having chicken meat disinfected by dunking them in chloride, as it is done in the US. Which to me seems to be the better alternative to pumping them full of antibecterials, as we do here in Europe ... Quite different safety traditions on both sides of the Atlantic.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
Food irradiation is also restricted in Europe, relative to America. Never-mind that it has been shown to be safe and effective; countries like Germany try to restrict irradiation of food to only a few things like dried spices. (EU trade regulations partially nullify these bans, by allowing the sale of food legally irradiated in other EU countries.)
gambiting 4y ago
I haven't met anyone afraid of eating meat dunked in chlorine because of the chlorine - it's because of the reasons why American chickens need a chlorine wash in the first place. And it's because it's cheaper and more efficient to just let chickens stand in their own shit for so long their feet dissolve and then just wash the meat in chlorine to avoid any bacterial contamination, than provide chickens with decent living conditions in the first place. Never heard of European chickens being "pumped full of antibacterials" - would you mind explaining what you mean?
- lostlogin 4y ago
  Dosing herds has been/is standard in some places. A quick Google suggests this is changing in the EU. https://www.worldanimalprotection.org/european-union-bans-antibiotic-overuse-farmed-animals-animal-welfare https://www.worldanimalprotection.org/european-union-bans-an...
- jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
  The EU approach to salmonella control is a combination of antimicrobials and vaccines, in contrast to the US using a dip in chlorinated water after slaughter. There are critics of both approaches, and some annoying folks that use it as a pretext for smugness (without actually engaging the reality of the differences).
jefftk 4y ago
> Which to me seems to be the better alternative to pumping them full of antibecterials, as we do here in Europe We do that here in the US too. Chlorination was on top of that.
Viliam1234 4y ago
Some data on how safe it is to dunk infected chicken meat in chloride and then eat it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonellosis_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonellosis_in_the_United_St...

MichaelCollins 4y ago

Food irradiation is also restricted in Europe, relative to America. Never-mind that it has been shown to be safe and effective; countries like Germany try to restrict irradiation of food to only a few things like dried spices. (EU trade regulations partially nullify these bans, by allowing the sale of food legally irradiated in other EU countries.)

gambiting 4y ago

I haven't met anyone afraid of eating meat dunked in chlorine because of the chlorine - it's because of the reasons why American chickens need a chlorine wash in the first place. And it's because it's cheaper and more efficient to just let chickens stand in their own shit for so long their feet dissolve and then just wash the meat in chlorine to avoid any bacterial contamination, than provide chickens with decent living conditions in the first place. Never heard of European chickens being "pumped full of antibacterials" - would you mind explaining what you mean?

lostlogin 4y ago
Dosing herds has been/is standard in some places. A quick Google suggests this is changing in the EU. https://www.worldanimalprotection.org/european-union-bans-antibiotic-overuse-farmed-animals-animal-welfare https://www.worldanimalprotection.org/european-union-bans-an...
jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
The EU approach to salmonella control is a combination of antimicrobials and vaccines, in contrast to the US using a dip in chlorinated water after slaughter. There are critics of both approaches, and some annoying folks that use it as a pretext for smugness (without actually engaging the reality of the differences).

jefftk 4y ago

> Which to me seems to be the better alternative to pumping them full of antibecterials, as we do here in Europe We do that here in the US too. Chlorination was on top of that.

Viliam1234 4y ago

Some data on how safe it is to dunk infected chicken meat in chloride and then eat it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonellosis_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonellosis_in_the_United_St...