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18 W idle is kinda horrible if you just want a small server (granted, this isn't one server, but instead six set-top boxes in one). That's recycled entry-level

18 W idle is kinda horrible if you just want a small server (granted, this isn't one server, but instead six set-top boxes in one). That's recycled entry-level rack server range, which come with ILOM/BMC. Most old-ish fat clients can do <10 W, some <5 W, no problem. If you want a desktop that consumes little power when idle or not loaded a lot, just get basically any Intel system with an IGP since 4th gen (Haswell). Avoid Ryzen CPU with dGPU if that's your goal; those are gas guzzlers.

oblak 4y ago
1. I would bet at least half of all that wattage is the SSDs. 2. Buddy, you're spewing BS at someone who used to run a Haswell in a really small Mini-ITX case. It was a fine HTPC back in 2014. But now everything, bar my dead Pi, is some kind of Ryzen. All desktops and laptops. The various 4800u/5800u/6800u and lower parts offer tremendous performance at 15W nominal power levels. The 5800H I am writing this message on is hardly a guzzler, especially when compared to Intel's core11/12 parts. This random drive-by intel shilling really took me by surprise.
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  > 1. I would bet at least half of all that wattage is the SSDs. SSDs are really good at consuming nearly nothing when not servicing I/O. > 2. Buddy, you're spewing BS ... various 4800u/5800u/6800u ... 5800H ... None of those SKUs are a "Ryzen CPU with dGPU".
  - oblak 4y ago
    SSD can get to really low power levels, depending on state. Does not mean they were all in power sipping 10mW mode during measurement. > just get basically any Intel system with an IGP since 4th gen (Haswell). Avoid Ryzen CPU with dGPU Was your advice to me. So I took it at face value and compared them, like you suggested, to the relevant models.
sgarland 4y ago
What do you define as "recycled?" I have R620s - which granted, are a decade old - and they idle at around 90 W. Three SSDs, no spinning disks.

oblak 4y ago

1. I would bet at least half of all that wattage is the SSDs. 2. Buddy, you're spewing BS at someone who used to run a Haswell in a really small Mini-ITX case. It was a fine HTPC back in 2014. But now everything, bar my dead Pi, is some kind of Ryzen. All desktops and laptops. The various 4800u/5800u/6800u and lower parts offer tremendous performance at 15W nominal power levels. The 5800H I am writing this message on is hardly a guzzler, especially when compared to Intel's core11/12 parts. This random drive-by intel shilling really took me by surprise.

formerly_proven 4y ago
> 1. I would bet at least half of all that wattage is the SSDs. SSDs are really good at consuming nearly nothing when not servicing I/O. > 2. Buddy, you're spewing BS ... various 4800u/5800u/6800u ... 5800H ... None of those SKUs are a "Ryzen CPU with dGPU".
- oblak 4y ago
  SSD can get to really low power levels, depending on state. Does not mean they were all in power sipping 10mW mode during measurement. > just get basically any Intel system with an IGP since 4th gen (Haswell). Avoid Ryzen CPU with dGPU Was your advice to me. So I took it at face value and compared them, like you suggested, to the relevant models.

sgarland 4y ago

What do you define as "recycled?" I have R620s - which granted, are a decade old - and they idle at around 90 W. Three SSDs, no spinning disks.