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I was hoping there was going to be some minimum definition, and that I could call myself Lord, but alas, my ~300m^2 of land doesn't seem to qualify me either (I
by ad133 4y ago
I was hoping there was going to be some minimum definition, and that I could call myself Lord, but alas, my ~300m^2 of land doesn't seem to qualify me either (I live there, I didn't get scammed ~3k times over for 1 sq foot).
I mean honestly if you could be a lord with 1 square foot, there would be a lot of lords in Scotland due to the ownership nature of buying a house (very little of this "leasehold" thing that's prevalent in England). My parents would be a lord and lady, so would their parents...
I've not encountered these ads though, I guess it would be pretty dumb to geo-target it to people living in Scotland.
Edit, on the other hand, if you buy a house and let it out, I guess you can be a land lord, even if you still can't call yourself lord.
- yupper32 4y agoCould be targeting tourists.
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- Banana699 4y agoWhy is becoming a Scottish Lord desirable in the first place ? explained for someone who doesn't live in Scotland or any of the neighbouring Isles ?
- dougmwne 4y agoI doubt it confers any practical modern day benefits aside from the Right of the Braggart.
- Macha 4y agoThere are sufficient people who value items that give them (real or imagined) prestige with other people (especially those of a similar mindset) to sustain these industries.
- cjbgkagh 4y agoI think it’s a holdover from when airlines and other service industries would treat their customers with titles more favorably.
- CharlesW 4y agoScottish Lords and Ladies get a free pint from their local pub the third Tuesday of the month between 3-5pm.
- globalise83 4y agoOnly if they loudly declaim their status to all present...
- slowmovintarget 4y agoTime was, you could be a Senator in the American South without the land... or the actual job. They'd call you that in the bar or restaurant, just in case your were.
- tailspin2019 4y agoAnd I believe there is a requirement to do a funny little dance…
- ogogmad 4y agoI imagine it isn't. It's simply something you can mention during drinks. And the correct term is laird btw.
- thaumasiotes 4y ago> And the correct term is laird btw. The OP quite clearly notes that this is false: > In the United Kingdom, “lord” and “lady” are peerage titles, meaning a person can only hold the legal recognition, privileges, and protections associated with those titles if they rightfully inherit them, if they marry into a noble family, or if the queen grants them a peerage. > Companies that sell souvenir plots with the claim of granting titles often rely on a conflation of the titles “lord” and “lady” with “laird,” which is not a peerage title, but rather solely a courtesy title akin to the English phrase “lord of the manor.” In Scotland, this title is traditionally applied to a member of the landed gentry who owns a large estate that has a long history and who generally has servants and tenants. Because “laird” is merely a courtesy title, it has no legal significance The title of nobility is "lord". "Laird" is not a title at all, but a conventional designation for a somewhat related concept.
- PaulHoule 4y agoIf you make a reservation at the Marriott they have a long list of titles you can claim. You can say you are a "Lord" there. Also an example that "Established Titles" makes is that you can have your credit card say "Lord so-an-so"
- d1sxeyes 4y agoFor the Marriott, sure. But for credit cards, normally you can't though. It's not part of your name, and it's not a legal title. Most KYC processes will stop you if you try.
- dylan604 4y agoI mean, you know, would you rather have a chat with Ben Kingsley or Sir Ben Kingsley? I know I'd rather chat with Lord Banana699 than just plain-ol' Banana699
- salawat 4y agoAnd this is why marketing is a thing, for the record.
- munificent 4y agoI'm guessing that many of these are targeting Americans. One of the weird side effects of being from a melting pot country only a few hundred years old is a yearning for connection to things that feel permanent and historical. "Owning" some land in Scotland and "having" a title may be appealing to an American who otherwise feels cut off from their Scottish ancestry or other longer-term cultural practices.
- dilyevsky 4y agoI don’t think it’s related to melting pot thing - new world history is just not that rich compared to european/asian ones due to its recency and (for the most part) lack of conflict
- ido 4y agoThere was a tremendous amount of conflict in the new world, just mostly not between countries (the conquest of the Americas had a death toll of 70-100m people).
- dilyevsky 4y agoSure but those are relatively few events (though large in magnitude) compared to stuff that was going on in europe/asia. And americas are fucking huge compared to europe and coastal east asia. Turns out when lota people are sandwiched in tight geography, competing for resources for thousands of years a lot of stuff happens!
- noSyncCloud 4y agoCounterpoint: New World history is/was just as rich and valuable; it was just systematically erased by one of the largest genocides in history spanning from pole to pole.
- dilyevsky 4y agoThey had 10% of world population at the time conquest began so just by that metric nah
- JamesBarney 4y agoIt's bought as a fun gag gift.
- WorldMaker 4y agoTitles are a form of addressing people. Sometimes it is just nice to be addressed by something that isn't Mr/Ms/Mx(/Mrs/Miss). Plenty of people have been motivated towards a PhD or MD for among other reasons the hopes of getting to be addressed as Doctor. For various reasons most of the available Titles to be found in our world are old and baroque (sometimes literally), which both has its appeals (a feeling of "tradition") and detriments (hard to get). I've many non-binary friends that especially pine that Mx isn't greatly accepted by many and most of the non-gendered titles (including Doctor) are hard to acquire. I keep joking that if I were Governor of Kentucky, I'd make a simple form for any non-binary person to acquire the Colonel title if they wished. (In Kentucky the Colonel title, the same one used by, for instance, the well known Colonel Sanders, is a title gifted to anyone for general service to the Commonwealth. It's origins are military, but it's been much more a philanthropic thing for much of the past couple centuries, including in the case of Colonel Sanders who was awarded it for his role as a businessman in the Commonwealth. It's a fascinating title.)
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- slowmovintarget 4y agoOr the square foot grant when you buy a bottle of Laphroaig... I have a few, though I'd strongly doubt they're contiguous.
- iak8god 4y agoThe only way to know for sure is to go check it out :) And while you're there, take the Water to Whiskey tour: https://whiskystories.com/2017/02/18/laphroaig-water-to-whisky-experience/ https://whiskystories.com/2017/02/18/laphroaig-water-to-whis...
- rob_c 4y agothe distillers wares tour at laphroaig is much better imo: https://www.laphroaig.com/gb/book-islay-distillery-tour#id=distillers-wares-2 https://www.laphroaig.com/gb/book-islay-distillery-tour#id=d... went a few years ago
- iak8god 4y agoI think the uisge tour (formerly known as w2w but now without peat digging) is basically just distillers wares with a picnic first.
- splonk 4y agoThey don't do water to whiskey anymore, the new version is called "uisge". I believe the primary difference is that they don't take you out to dig peat on the new tour (because all the peat is dug mechanically now). Still a nice day out with a picnic by the water source, as long as weather cooperates.
- iak8god 4y ago> They don't do water to whiskey anymore Ah, so I see. It has been a while. The stop to dig peat was fun, but it's still a really good tour without that.
- synu 4y agoOr you could just call yourself lord regardless, and the monarch won’t appear and throw you in the oubliette.
- DocTomoe 4y agoIt's Britain, the country that wants to get out of the European Human Rights Convention because ... it protects human rights. I wouldn't be so sure about oubliettes...
- Veen 4y agoThat's a misrepresentation. The UK government merely wants to make the UK supreme court the final authority on some human rights cases in the UK, which seems perfectly reasonable to me. The UK is not abandoning the convention, and there are plans to create a UK Bill of Rights. (Putting people in oubliettes is illegal under UK law anyway.)
- ben_w 4y agoWhat the UK politicians say they want and what the actual bills say are not necessarily aligned. FWIW, the rhetoric that gets hate-quoted at me is mostly in the camp of "rights are bad". (Would it be illegal to make a law whose punishment was an oubliette? Can the queen be detained at her own pleasure, at least for anything other than the detonation of a nuclear device in her personal capacity?)
- matthewheath 4y ago> Would it be illegal to make a law whose punishment was an oubliette? No, it would not be illegal to make a law whose punishment was an oubliette. The British Parliament is sovereign and supreme, and can make any law it wishes. The devolved legislatures are limited by the Act(s) establishing them. Such a law passed by the Scottish Parliament would probably be challenged under S29(2)(d) of the Scotland Act 1998 which prohibits breaches of the European Convention on Human Rights. In this case, such a law in Scotland could potentially breach Article 3 of the Convention which prohibits inhuman or degrading punishment. The British Parliament can simply choose to ignore it, but the Scottish Parliament can't (unless the British Parliament chose to give it such powers). > Can the queen be detained at her own pleasure, at least for anything other than the detonation of a nuclear device in her personal capacity? No, she cannot be prosecuted for anything while she is the monarch. She would need to abdicate or otherwise be legally removed (e.g. an Act of Parliament abolishing the Crown) from her position. Even if she were able to be prosecuted, the Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998 is not currently in force, and even if the Act were in force, Her Majesty would be exempt under S14(4): "Nothing in this section affects Her Majesty in her private capacity; and this subsection shall be construed as if section 38(3) of the Crown Proceedings Act 1947 (meaning of Her Majesty in her private capacity) were contained in this Act."
- CRConrad 4y ago> I've not encountered these ads though, I guess it would be pretty dumb to geo-target it to people living in Scotland. In-video "sponsored content" on YouTube is probably only made in only one version and thus not geo-targetted, right? I've seen this in several videos on history and adjacent subjects (for instance in some by Max Miller, whose "Tasting History" channel on old recipes seems rather popular here). So if you want to see it, that's where to look.