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> Many people will say "just buy one PC and run VMs on it!", but to that, I say "phooey." I mean with VM-leaking things like Spectre (not sure how much similar

> Many people will say "just buy one PC and run VMs on it!", but to that, I say "phooey." I mean with VM-leaking things like Spectre (not sure how much similar things affect ARM tbh) having physical barriers between your CPUs can be seen as a positive thing.

mrweasel 4y ago
Sure, it's just that the Raspberry Pi isn't really fast enough for most production workloads. Having a cluster of them doesn't really help, you'd still be better off with a single PC. As a learning tool, having the ability to build a real hardware cluster, in a MiniITX case is awesome. I do sort of wonder what the business case for these boards are, I mean are there actually enough people who want to do something like this... schools maybe? I still think it's beyond weird that that there are so much hardware available for build Pi clusters, but I can't get an ARM desktop motherboard, with a PCI slot capable of actually being used as a desktop, for a reasonable prices.
- geerlingguy 4y ago
  I think a lot of these types of boards are built with the business case of either "edge/IoT" (which still for some reason causes people to toss money at them since they're hot buzzwords... just need 5G too for the trifecta), or for deploying many ARM cores/discrete ARM64 computers in a space/energy-efficient manner. Some places need little ARM build farms, and that's where I've seen the most non-hobbyist interest in the CM4 blade, Turing Pi 2, and this board.
- schaefer 4y ago
  The Nvidia Jetson AGX Orin Dev Kit is getting pretty damn close to a performant Linux/ARM desktop system. GB5 Scores (Single: 763/ Multi: 7193) That's roughly 80% the performance of my current x86 desktop. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS 12 Core Cortex A78AE v8.2 64 bit. 2.20 Ghz 32 GB LDPDDR5 memory, 256 bit, 204.8 GB/s NVIDIA graphics/AI acceleration. PCI-E Slot 64 Mb eMMC 5.1 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 Display Port 1.4a +MST The deal breaker, if there is one is price: $2k
ReadTheLicense 4y ago
The future of cloud is Zero Isolation... With all the mitigation slowing it down, and the current energy prices and rising, having super-small nodes that are always reserved to one task seems interesting.

mrweasel 4y ago

Sure, it's just that the Raspberry Pi isn't really fast enough for most production workloads. Having a cluster of them doesn't really help, you'd still be better off with a single PC. As a learning tool, having the ability to build a real hardware cluster, in a MiniITX case is awesome. I do sort of wonder what the business case for these boards are, I mean are there actually enough people who want to do something like this... schools maybe? I still think it's beyond weird that that there are so much hardware available for build Pi clusters, but I can't get an ARM desktop motherboard, with a PCI slot capable of actually being used as a desktop, for a reasonable prices.

geerlingguy 4y ago
I think a lot of these types of boards are built with the business case of either "edge/IoT" (which still for some reason causes people to toss money at them since they're hot buzzwords... just need 5G too for the trifecta), or for deploying many ARM cores/discrete ARM64 computers in a space/energy-efficient manner. Some places need little ARM build farms, and that's where I've seen the most non-hobbyist interest in the CM4 blade, Turing Pi 2, and this board.
schaefer 4y ago
The Nvidia Jetson AGX Orin Dev Kit is getting pretty damn close to a performant Linux/ARM desktop system. GB5 Scores (Single: 763/ Multi: 7193) That's roughly 80% the performance of my current x86 desktop. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS 12 Core Cortex A78AE v8.2 64 bit. 2.20 Ghz 32 GB LDPDDR5 memory, 256 bit, 204.8 GB/s NVIDIA graphics/AI acceleration. PCI-E Slot 64 Mb eMMC 5.1 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 Display Port 1.4a +MST The deal breaker, if there is one is price: $2k

ReadTheLicense 4y ago

The future of cloud is Zero Isolation... With all the mitigation slowing it down, and the current energy prices and rising, having super-small nodes that are always reserved to one task seems interesting.