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Trouble is poor don’t pay taxes but consume a lot of services. If the middle class and rich who do pay the bills leave them a city can have a huge decline in

Trouble is poor don’t pay taxes but consume a lot of services. If the middle class and rich who do pay the bills leave them a city can have a huge decline in coke from a small population decline.

Retric 4y ago
Then offer fewer services, plenty of poor cities exist around the world.
adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
This is straight up false. In local and state taxes, poor people pay a far higher percent of their income.
- nemo44x 4y ago
  Over 50% of people pay $0 in income taxes. Yes, they pay sales taxes and generally property taxes indirectly as part of their rent - but they provide 0 in revenues as far as state, local, and Federal taxes are concerned. The top 10% of income earners pay 80% of the taxes.
  - adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
    This is only true if you ignore payroll tax, social security, gas tax, tolls, and other highly regressive taxes. Where is your 10/80 stat coming from? https://itep.org/who-pays-taxes-in-america-in-2020/ https://itep.org/who-pays-taxes-in-america-in-2020/ paints a very different picture: the top 20% of earners pay 75% of income tax while making around 75% of the income.
    - nemo44x 4y ago
      The majority of people do not pay any income tax and also receive numerous credits. This means they are net gainers of the tax system by not only not paying anything but actually receiving bonus money for things that they aren't taxed on. When you add up all those other things, it amounts to essentially nothing. At the end of the day while we have certain pols demanding high earners "pay their fair share", the truth is most people pay nothing and the highest earners pay for almost everything. These are just the facts. I suspect the "fair share" nonsense is just trying to leverage jealous tendencies in certain people that can't be bothered to address the root cause of their shortcomings: themselves.
      - Retric 4y ago
        First government services go disproportionately to support the wealthy. Just look at the density of cops : population in rich vs poor areas etc. As to tax burden it only looks like that i you ignore the US has several different income taxes and many non income taxes. A homeless drunk who spends most of their money on cheap alcohol pays a higher percentage of tho income in taxes than any of the US billionaires. Naming one specific income tax as “the income tax” was a brilliant idea that has been doping people for decades.

Trouble is poor don’t pay taxes but consume a lot of services. If the middle class and rich who do pay the bills leave them a city can have a huge decline in coke from a small population decline.

Retric 4y ago

Then offer fewer services, plenty of poor cities exist around the world.

adgjlsfhk1 4y ago

This is straight up false. In local and state taxes, poor people pay a far higher percent of their income.

nemo44x 4y ago
Over 50% of people pay $0 in income taxes. Yes, they pay sales taxes and generally property taxes indirectly as part of their rent - but they provide 0 in revenues as far as state, local, and Federal taxes are concerned. The top 10% of income earners pay 80% of the taxes.
- adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
  This is only true if you ignore payroll tax, social security, gas tax, tolls, and other highly regressive taxes. Where is your 10/80 stat coming from? https://itep.org/who-pays-taxes-in-america-in-2020/ https://itep.org/who-pays-taxes-in-america-in-2020/ paints a very different picture: the top 20% of earners pay 75% of income tax while making around 75% of the income.
  - nemo44x 4y ago
    The majority of people do not pay any income tax and also receive numerous credits. This means they are net gainers of the tax system by not only not paying anything but actually receiving bonus money for things that they aren't taxed on. When you add up all those other things, it amounts to essentially nothing. At the end of the day while we have certain pols demanding high earners "pay their fair share", the truth is most people pay nothing and the highest earners pay for almost everything. These are just the facts. I suspect the "fair share" nonsense is just trying to leverage jealous tendencies in certain people that can't be bothered to address the root cause of their shortcomings: themselves.
    - Retric 4y ago
      First government services go disproportionately to support the wealthy. Just look at the density of cops : population in rich vs poor areas etc. As to tax burden it only looks like that i you ignore the US has several different income taxes and many non income taxes. A homeless drunk who spends most of their money on cheap alcohol pays a higher percentage of tho income in taxes than any of the US billionaires. Naming one specific income tax as “the income tax” was a brilliant idea that has been doping people for decades.