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These are things lots of people, even developers, do on their phones - play games and watch videos.

HidyBush 4y ago
Don't you think there's a difference between "it's annoying I can't watch full blown movies on this experimental phone" and "it's garbage because no Netflix"?
- criddell 4y ago
  It depends on what you were expecting. On their A64 Kickstarter they said the graphics capabilities are higher than the original XBox's level of performance. That might lead a person to expect it to play games well. The screenshot included a Netflix icon. The Kickstarter FAQ says it can play UHD 4K video. That might lead you to believe you could watch Netflix on it. As I understand it, the phone is based on the A64 board. On top of all this, on the PinePhone page they link to a video titled something like "This $200 phone can do ANYTHING!".
  - HidyBush 4y ago
    It can play 4k videos and it can play games, but expecting it to play 4k videos through an unoptimized browser with DRM and play virtualized games is extremely disingenuous.
    - criddell 4y ago
      Maybe they shouldn't include Netflix in their screenshot then.
    - TylerE 4y ago
      Are your feet sore from moving the goalposts that far?
      - HidyBush 4y ago
        Are you seriously telling me you expect an ARM board running mainline Linux to play virtualized Android games? This is beyond beyond disingenuous, is somebody paying you to write this or what?
ddevault 4y ago
Yes, but they probably should not be buying experimental products for this purpose. Set your expectations according to your purchases. The Pine store makes it abundantly clear that this is not a device which you can expect to plug-and-play for whatever use-case you have.
- sgbeal 4y ago
  > Yes, but they probably should not be buying experimental products for this purpose. You misunderstand. i didn't back the phone/laptop. i backed the first pine64 boards, which were marketed as being much more capable than they turned out to be: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-1...
  - jprd 4y ago
    I have one of the original Kickstarter A64+, it has happily run low disk I/O tasks for years (on account of the uSDcard). Right now it runs some services through Docker and is pretty dang solid. I've never taken any manufacturer's performance claims too seriously, there's always an angle.

Don't you think there's a difference between "it's annoying I can't watch full blown movies on this experimental phone" and "it's garbage because no Netflix"?

criddell 4y ago
It depends on what you were expecting. On their A64 Kickstarter they said the graphics capabilities are higher than the original XBox's level of performance. That might lead a person to expect it to play games well. The screenshot included a Netflix icon. The Kickstarter FAQ says it can play UHD 4K video. That might lead you to believe you could watch Netflix on it. As I understand it, the phone is based on the A64 board. On top of all this, on the PinePhone page they link to a video titled something like "This $200 phone can do ANYTHING!".
- HidyBush 4y ago
  It can play 4k videos and it can play games, but expecting it to play 4k videos through an unoptimized browser with DRM and play virtualized games is extremely disingenuous.
  - criddell 4y ago
    Maybe they shouldn't include Netflix in their screenshot then.
  - TylerE 4y ago
    Are your feet sore from moving the goalposts that far?
    - HidyBush 4y ago
      Are you seriously telling me you expect an ARM board running mainline Linux to play virtualized Android games? This is beyond beyond disingenuous, is somebody paying you to write this or what?

ddevault 4y ago

Yes, but they probably should not be buying experimental products for this purpose. Set your expectations according to your purchases. The Pine store makes it abundantly clear that this is not a device which you can expect to plug-and-play for whatever use-case you have.

sgbeal 4y ago
> Yes, but they probably should not be buying experimental products for this purpose. You misunderstand. i didn't back the phone/laptop. i backed the first pine64 boards, which were marketed as being much more capable than they turned out to be: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-1...
- jprd 4y ago
  I have one of the original Kickstarter A64+, it has happily run low disk I/O tasks for years (on account of the uSDcard). Right now it runs some services through Docker and is pretty dang solid. I've never taken any manufacturer's performance claims too seriously, there's always an angle.