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> remind people the world is far more racist > generations working to mitigate any form of discrimination I would definitely agree that all humans have the ca

by yunohn 4y ago

> remind people the world is far more racist > generations working to mitigate any form of discrimination I would definitely agree that all humans have the capacity to be racist (other-ist) and that racism is not confined to the USA (obviously). But it’s ridiculous to claim that somehow “it’s worse than the USA” and that the USA has mitigated it all, because that’s easily disproved by speaking to any minority person.

shlant 4y ago
> that the USA has mitigated it all, because that’s easily disproved by speaking to any minority person. The OP literally said "It’s not perfect, but we strive in the right direction" in the next sentence
- wikfwikf 4y ago
  The claim that the US is not perfect and the claim that it is far less racist than the rest of the world are very very different.
  - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
    I don’t see why that is the case, other than the fact that you disagree with the second sentence and not the first. Doesn’t make the sentences logically incompatible.
    - wikfwikf 4y ago
      I didn't say that they are logically incompatible. If Henry the Eighth said "I am not perfect, but I have treated my wives far better than anyone else in the world", then the admission that he is not perfect should not be sufficient to dismiss factual challenges to the second part of the claim.
    - dismantlethesun 4y ago
      They are just different claims. Which is what the Op was getting at. Does the US have to be better than the rest of the world? All counties, everywhere? This isn't really even allowing for equality with say Canada.
rfrey 4y ago
I'm only 25% down the comment thread, but so far not one commenter (including your parent) has said the USA has mitigated it all.
- yunohn 4y ago
  It’s important to read the phrasing and implications, than look for the literal “we’ve solved it all”. I’d quoted the relevant portions in my comment, if you think their phrasing is perfectly logical, so be it.

by yunohn 4y ago

shlant 4y ago

> that the USA has mitigated it all, because that’s easily disproved by speaking to any minority person. The OP literally said "It’s not perfect, but we strive in the right direction" in the next sentence

wikfwikf 4y ago
The claim that the US is not perfect and the claim that it is far less racist than the rest of the world are very very different.
- DiggyJohnson 4y ago
  I don’t see why that is the case, other than the fact that you disagree with the second sentence and not the first. Doesn’t make the sentences logically incompatible.
  - wikfwikf 4y ago
    I didn't say that they are logically incompatible. If Henry the Eighth said "I am not perfect, but I have treated my wives far better than anyone else in the world", then the admission that he is not perfect should not be sufficient to dismiss factual challenges to the second part of the claim.
  - dismantlethesun 4y ago
    They are just different claims. Which is what the Op was getting at. Does the US have to be better than the rest of the world? All counties, everywhere? This isn't really even allowing for equality with say Canada.

rfrey 4y ago

I'm only 25% down the comment thread, but so far not one commenter (including your parent) has said the USA has mitigated it all.

yunohn 4y ago
It’s important to read the phrasing and implications, than look for the literal “we’ve solved it all”. I’d quoted the relevant portions in my comment, if you think their phrasing is perfectly logical, so be it.